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Old 07-30-2013, 09:54 PM   #16
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Equality is progress.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:11 PM   #18
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Equality is progress.
But didn't he say he doesn't mind gay priests? That's equality.
So he's not stopping equality, he's stopping butt sex. Har-Tru must have meant that butt sex is progress.
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I think it was already there, before the church.
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But didn't he say he doesn't mind gay priests? That's equality.
So he's not stopping equality, he's stopping butt sex. Har-Tru must have meant that butt sex is progress.
Sex?

The Church is against divorce, pleasure sex, pre-marriage sex ("fornication"), masturbation and anti-conception, and they said that homosexuality is antinatural and you try to find something positive there

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But didn't he say he doesn't mind gay priests? That's equality.
So he's not stopping equality, he's stopping butt sex. Har-Tru must have meant that butt sex is progress.
He's stopping people from being themselves, living their lives and marrying those who they love.
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He's stopping people from being themselves, living their lives and marrying those who they love.
He can't stop anyone from doing all that. He doesn't have the power.
You're just mad because he doesn't approve of it, and that's his God given right.
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Equality is progress.
How so? Free people are not equal and equal people are not free. There can be either equality or freedom, not both.
One can say that in one family there is equality but there is not a total freedom.
In fact, in nature there is no equality as such, it's just a human projection of domestication or rather by those in power to enslave their subjects.

As far as homosexuality being "natural" and all that, it is not. First of all "homosexuality" is an oxymoron. Sexuality derives from Latin which means to divide and same sex couples can't divide and procreate so sex is something that can only lead to procreation. Then there is a common myth that there are homosexual animals but this is way overblown. Thjere are no homosexual cats, dogs, pigs, horses, cattle . They only mate to procreate.

The only species that it was observed on in nature is lions and sheep and even there it's very minor and due to their social structure. Both male lions and sheep fight out vicious battles against each other for a privilege to breed with females so there are only so many males that can breed. The losers of this tend to engage in homosexual behaviour , probably out of frustration but they return to battle during the next breeding season.
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He can't stop anyone from doing all that. He doesn't have the power.
You're just mad because he doesn't approve of it, and that's his God given right.
Pretty much this. People need to realize that religious denominations are no different than other private clubs. Don't like the rules?--don't join. There are many other alternatives around. There are even churches that approve of practising homosexuality. If you swing that way, by all means join one! But don't call others haters because they don't agree with you!
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Even David Ferrer? (Roger 14 - 0 David)

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Pretty much this. People need to realize that religious denominations are no different than other private clubs. Don't like the rules?--don't join. There are many other alternatives around. There are even churches that approve of practising homosexuality. If you swing that way, by all means join one! But don't call others haters because they don't agree with you!
People don't usually join churches, they just blindly follow the faiths of their parents, without question. So, you must be saying that anyone brought up in the Catholic church who finds themselves to be gay, should walk away, rather than try to change.
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People don't usually join churches, they just blindly follow the faiths of their parents, without question. So, you must be saying that anyone brought up in the Catholic church who finds themselves to be gay, should walk away, rather than try to change.
Yes, if they wanted to conform to the accepted creed, changes would be required, but this is the same for any private club....the following of rules etc.
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Even David Ferrer? (Roger 14 - 0 David)

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The only species that it was observed on in nature is lions and sheep and even there it's very minor and due to their social structure. Both male lions and sheep fight out vicious battles against each other for a privilege to breed with females so there are only so many males that can breed. The losers of this tend to engage in homosexual behaviour , probably out of frustration but they return to battle during the next breeding season.
Ever heard of bonobos? Dolphins? Giraffes? There are documented cases on all these and more, whether you want to believe it or not. I'll believe biologists over some guy on a message board.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...eally-gay.html

http://io9.com/5889691/female-bonobo...-social-status

http://now.msn.com/researchers-find-...y-gay-dolphins

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Try it sometime.
There's no need to push those buttons, if you want sincere discussion, and not flaming in your thread.
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Even David Ferrer? (Roger 14 - 0 David)

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