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Old 07-25-2013, 03:53 AM   #31
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I thought for sure I have discussed this before here, but yeah, perfect tennis game would have GST2 slams, graphics and downloadable players (It has EA share so all the players were created by people and uploaded online, even if they aren't officially in the game), and TS4 gameplay, that would be great.

I'm less worried about licensed non masters events.. I mean I can live with "German Open" rather than "ATP Halle" for a grass court minor tourney, long as it looks similar, just licensed slams and masters are a need be.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:05 PM   #32
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Just wait until you improve some more on TE, you'll stop being upset by Benneteau and Bellucci.
I had already won Grand Slams at the time, it's due to the nature of the programming. There are a great many levels and sub-levels of difficulty, and CPU players can play above or below their level on the day. And presumably sometimes if a player really turns up on beastly form, it's equivalent to going up a number of levels in difficulty and mistakes are heavily punished, they become a lot tighter on serve, etc. Needless to say, the AI is on another level to TS, not that it's saying much. Random factors and variations make the world of difference. This is why I give such generous praise to TE, it's not like the majority of sports games and far more care goes into this than the average release by a big company.

And yeah, Murray was horrible to face on TS.
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I still play this game all the friggin' time. I solely play in 2K mode on Xbox Live, though. Created players can be so unrealistic and hard to beat, I like playing as the real guys.

I'm ranked #250 in the world! heh. But to get to number one, you'd basically have to play the game all day every day, the #1 player's overall score is insane.

(i'm also pretty excited about NBA2k14, which comes out next Tuesday. Even if you don't care about basketball, the games are fun to play)

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I thought they'd announced Top Spin 5 because you bumped this old thread
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I owned all of them, but I definitely feel as though they have gotten worse in realism and worse in player choices. The first one was great and I still play it from time to time. Either way, I doubt they will have a 5.
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My Gael Monflis was #4 on WT for like 2 hours. I made it to the final of Australian Open with a cake walk draw, only to lose to a perfect ballbasher. I also won two small tournaments somehow. But literally people who are way too good at the game suck to play, also there is an abundance of cheap created players. Either big serving, ballbashing; or stupid angles.

I really do hope they come up with TS-5, but it ain't going to happen
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I owned all of them, but I definitely feel as though they have gotten worse in realism and worse in player choices. The first one was great and I still play it from time to time. Either way, I doubt they will have a 5.
Er what? TS4 is by far the most realistic version to date. TS1 was stupid based on the risk shot mechanic alone.
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Er what? TS4 is by far the most realistic version to date. TS1 was stupid based on the risk shot mechanic alone.
Realistic in terms of what? Graphics perhaps, though ironically TS4 got a lot of service/hitting motions really wrong for some players.. Either way, I never felt any of the TS games come close to Dream Match Tennis where I feel serves are properly weighted in the game (unlike in the TS series where even big servers have a difficult time getting an ace...) and rally/balls speeds feel much more accurate.
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Realistic in terms of what? Graphics perhaps, though ironically TS4 got a lot of service/hitting motions really wrong for some players.. Either way, I never felt any of the TS games come close to Dream Match Tennis where I feel serves are properly weighted in the game (unlike in the TS series where even big servers have a difficult time getting an ace...) and rally/balls speeds feel much more accurate.
I'm talking about gameplay realism. TS4 is far and away better than TS1 in every way. In TS1 hitting a topspin shot resulted in errors half the time and flat shots never missed - that's the opposite of what should occur. Serves aren't that realistic but it's pretty easy to hit aces with Roddick and Becker.
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Great shame if a 5th never gets made, i was world number one a few times on the xbox
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I feel like TS4 didn't sell that well because it wasn't that fun for the average tennis fan and there was barely any replay value. I just want to see a console tennis game that puts the same kind of devotion to realism that the Tennis Elbow community does. If a smaller company with less advanced technology can make a game that good, then certainly a big company like 2K can make a game where every player has their correct animations, tendencies, and stats (TS4's stats were beyond stupid). Players should feel unique. If 2K can do it with NBA, where LeBron looks and feels different to play with than Kobe, then they can certainly do it with tennis. The motions of Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Delpo, Berdych, Tsonga, Gasquet, Wawrinka, etc, are very distinct and a game needs to implement that.
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Er what? TS4 is by far the most realistic version to date. TS1 was stupid based on the risk shot mechanic alone.
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Realistic in terms of what? Graphics perhaps, though ironically TS4 got a lot of service/hitting motions really wrong for some players.. Either way, I never felt any of the TS games come close to Dream Match Tennis where I feel serves are properly weighted in the game (unlike in the TS series where even big servers have a difficult time getting an ace...) and rally/balls speeds feel much more accurate.
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I'm talking about gameplay realism. TS4 is far and away better than TS1 in every way. In TS1 hitting a topspin shot resulted in errors half the time and flat shots never missed - that's the opposite of what should occur. Serves aren't that realistic but it's pretty easy to hit aces with Roddick and Becker.
I'm sorry, but Top Spin 1 was the best for me as well. By far. I miss that game so much I hated riskshots, but I never used them - and topspin shots looked like topspin and flat looked flat. Now topspin looks like moonball most times, flat looks like topspin and slice is wayyyyyyyy too effective lol. Bye!
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Where do you get this Tennis Elbow video game? Not even Google gets me to a proper link.

Never mind, found it. Looks good!

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It was a shit series

Now, shame is there isn't anything on the horizon that's good

Grand slam tennis 2- a shit game, but some fun to be had. EA will never make a great tennis game

Virtua tennis series- needs a Ge overall, arcades gameplay is no gameplay fit for a true tennis fan. A true tennis fam expects nothing but absolute realism or absolute gameplay, virtua tennis has neither

Smash court tennis 3- far too easy, but one of the finest tennis games I've played. Only problem is the game play is too easy.
There is no one online, so after a while there is no challenge to it, however, it's a brilliant game

Top spin 4- an excellent sim, however there is a shallow feeling to it. The career mode is nothing compared to, say, virtua tennis 3
There is a delay in the movement, a lack of punch in reactions. There is a l

Everybody's tennis- ps2- excellent game. Gameplay is top notch, a must have game. There is a newer version on the psp. It's as good as any tennis game I've played
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