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Old 06-25-2013, 12:44 AM   #1
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Default Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Before 2012, grass was widely considered to be Nadal's second best surface, ahead of hardcourt. But now, after consecutive early round losses at Wimbledon, do you think otherwise?

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Old 06-25-2013, 12:44 AM   #2
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Nadal's only good surface is clay.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:54 AM   #3
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

he hasn't played on the worn down grass of week 2 for 2 years now, he's better on that surface
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:57 AM   #4
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

No. Hardcourts are still his worst surface. Rafa's best winning percentage after FO is Wimbledon, and his worst is USO which is not surprising considering the speed and play of the surfaces. Rafa moves quite well on the grass, he was definitely the second best mover for a long time behind Federer on the surface. Yes he struggled quite a bit over the past half decade during the first week (Muller, Kendrick, Soderling, Haase, Petzschner and then Rosol) but notice all of these are big servers which are always a nightmare to play against especially on fresh grass. But even then, he was still winning. His Wimbledon preparation the last two years have been quite poor and his scheduling continues to put unnecessary strain on him which is most evident off clay because of all the defending he has to potentially do on faster surfaces and now it has caught up to him whereas in previous years he was mentally strong enough to get through these types of rounds.
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

The competition on grass is just a bit much for Nadal now, he's too used to the weaker competition on clay courts.

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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Indoor hard for sure.
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

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he hasn't played on the worn down grass of week 2 for 2 years now, he's better on that surface
Exactly right. Nadull is worthless when the grass is still in pristine condition.

That said Nadull has only one good surface which is clay. He is decent on super slow hardcourts and worthless on any fast surface.
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

no, it is too early to say that... prob best to keep on using the * and the ** and the *** to denote sore, very sore or holiday time sore for these results...
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Yes, grass is his worst surface now, at least fresh grass. The ball bounces higher on hardcourt.
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Fresh grass or indoor hard as of 2013 IMO.
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

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Indoor hard for sure.
Still this surely. His defeat to Darcis was due to poor tactics and a beat up body, not ineptitude on the surface. Darcis playing very fine all court tennis and not choking sealed his fate.
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Indoor hard most likely, he just hasn't played there in a while. In fact, since 2012 USO, we have only seen him on clay and the slowest hard courts
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Somehow I am more pessimistic about this than you guys. I don't think it's just about the surface.... if Nadal disappears for another 7 months, we will have more evidence to make a real conclusion
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Default Re: Is it safe to say now that grass is Nadal's worst surface?

Wimbledon is his good slam - but thanks to conditions like best of 5, slower grass round by round and so on, but generally speaking right now grass is his worst surface for sure - HC - there is normal bounce he play on HC many matches, because it is major surface and not matter slow, fast, even indoor HC he is top 10 on it - howewer fresh grass - i say Nadal is not even top 20 give him at Queens or Halle R1 when grass is fresh vs many players he will loose,because they will simply outhit him outserve him.
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