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Old 06-24-2013, 07:26 PM   #1
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Default With Nadal's movement in clear decline, should he bring back USO 2010 serve?

I mean, think about it.

He has said that he can still crank it up to 125-130 mph on the serve, but he is worried about the first serve % in that scenario.

But the way I see it, he can't just keep hitting serves at 110 mph and rely on his movement and court coverage anymore outside of clay. On grass and hard, he MUST go for bigger serves and keep the rallies shorter.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:28 PM   #2
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Default Re: With Nadal's movement in clear decline, should he bring back USO 2010 serve?

He has to if he has any chance of having success outside clay ever again.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:30 PM   #3
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Default Re: With Nadal's movement in clear decline, should he bring back USO 2010 serve?

Well he said the main reason he dropped it was because it was putting a ton of strain on his shoulder. So yeah, it MIGHT get him one more HC Slam or something but at the risk of breaking his body even further. Besides his movement was fine in IW this year, clearly playing on Grass after a lot of matches with little preparation is the problem, not non-Clay in general.
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Default Re: With Nadal's movement in clear decline, should he bring back USO 2010 serve?

Will probably get "injured" for 7 months if he uses it again
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I wish Rafa days like this as long as he plays tennis. He deserves them.
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Default Re: With Nadal's movement in clear decline, should he bring back USO 2010 serve?

Rafa is done. Give it up with these silly threads. Before today, it was Rafa wins all tournaments this year. Now he is clearly done and needs a new serve? By the way, did anyone DVR this Darcis match? I'd like to watch it 100 times till next Wimbledon. Send it to me. Thanks
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Default Re: With Nadal's movement in clear decline, should he bring back USO 2010 serve?

"bring back"? From where? Is it hung somewhere? I thought Djokovic ripped apart whatever was left of 2010 Nadal the next year.
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There is nothing wrong with Rafa's game. Have people already forgotten his victory at Indian Wells?
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If he can then he must.
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There is nothing wrong with Rafa's game. Have people already forgotten his victory at Indian Wells?
That's a slow HC and he had many tough matches. It's completely different having to play multiple HC tournaments in a row the rest of the year.
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He still can serve like that but chooses not to? How generous this Humblito is.
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Nadal's movement is no worse than it was 2 weeks ago.

What a stupid topic.
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Rafa is done. Give it up with these silly threads. Before today, it was Rafa wins all tournaments this year. Now he is clearly done and needs a new serve? By the way, did anyone DVR this Darcis match? I'd like to watch it 100 times till next Wimbledon. Send it to me. Thanks
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Nadal's movement is no worse than it was 2 weeks ago.

What a stupid topic.
This is getting retarded. Nadal was moving like a God at the FO, making his usual impossible gets and winners. There is nothing wrong with the guy.
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Nadal's movement is no worse than it was 2 weeks ago.

What a stupid topic.
His movement is great on clay but worse on grass, especially lush grass. Not sure about HC.
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