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Old 06-22-2013, 01:05 PM   #61
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He vulture 250's and 500 until he was top 8, good enough to get weak draws to the QF every event(which of course he doesn't deserve), conbined with Nadal's injury to get him top 4 and weak draws to the SF everytime(which he also didn't deserve), which gets him top 2 and weak draws to the final everytime(which he doesn't deserve) and eventually then he'll be number 1

It'll be the ultimate undeserving vulture story for the ages.

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Old 06-22-2013, 10:34 PM   #62
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Would be deserved since he would have a MS title, one GS F and three SF in that scenario
Exactly. Haters gonna hate but the fact that some people don't like his game is totally irrelevant. He has results to sustain that position.
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I'm still waiting for that one special occasion when Ferrer vultures a slam. it'll be a story for the ages.
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Default Re: David Ferrer can become world number two before Rogers Cup

His chances improve with Rafa going out
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Ferrer just has to make a decent showing and enter a random clay tournament to make to the #2 spot, right? Craaazy.
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Pretty shameful stuff if this does happen. It would be nice to see him get a tough draw for once... just saying.
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No, he didn't beat any good players. Injured Murray and del Potro on their worst surfaces do not qualify as good players, I'm afraid, and the same can be said about both tanking and mentally tired Tsonga (Paris and RG respectively). Agree about the rest though, although the ranking system being a joke isn't exactly breaking news. It doesn't matter, he can vulture whatever ranking he wants, he still be inferior to every player with a Slam.
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Pretty shameful stuff if this does happen. It would be nice to see him get a tough draw for once... just saying.
Well he drew Nadal in Rome and Madrid back to back in his best surface, if that didn't happen he would be for sure just be 1000 points off Murray coming into Wimbledon.
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I hope it doesn't happen
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Well he drew Nadal in Rome and Madrid back to back in his best surface, if that didn't happen he would be for sure just be 1000 points off Murray coming into Wimbledon.
True, but he's had a bunch of comfortable draws in the recent majors. Admittedly he only made as far as he did in AO due to Almagro's epic choke.
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I go by facts the year (2010) Ferrer jumped into the top 8 in the start of him being one of the best.

He had 7 top 10 wins and players that finished ahead of him Murray had 5 top ten wins, Soderling had 6, Berydch had 6.

This was his points, he got the points mostly from masters and 500 events.

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Australian Open 2R 45
French Open     3R 90
Wimbledon       4R 180
US Open         4R 180
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Miami           4R 90
Monte Carlo     SF 360
Rome            F  600
Madrid          SF 360
Canada          1R 10
Cincinnati      3R 90
Shanghai        3R 90
Paris           3R 90
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Buenos Aires    F  150
Johannesburg    SF 90

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Of course Ferrer can become number 2, this era is an absolute joke.
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True, but he's had a bunch of comfortable draws in the recent majors. Admittedly he only made as far as he did in AO due to Almagro's epic choke.
And Murray only won Miami because Ferrer choked. He only lost to Nadal on Madrid because Ferrer choked. choking is part of the game. How many times had Murray benefited from this. Nieminen last year's french. Ferrer in Wimbledon 2012, when he got tight in important moments. Federer has been the other end of it as well, so had Nadal and Djokovic. How come they are not criticized. Federer in 2012 Wimbledon, he benefited from a struggling Benneteau, del Potro in olympics. Luck, mental toughness, and fitness is part of the games
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And Murray only won Miami because Ferrer choked. He only lost to Nadal on Madrid because Ferrer choked. choking is part of the game. How many times had Murray benefited from this. Nieminen last year's french. Ferrer in Wimbledon 2012, when he got tight in important moments. Federer has been the other end of it as well, so had Nadal and Djokovic. How come they are not criticized. Federer in 2012 Wimbledon, he benefited from a struggling Benneteau, del Potro in olympics. Luck, mental toughness, and fitness is part of the games
That wasn't really my point. I was saying that tournament was good for Ferrer because he progressed further than he really should have.

Ferrer being unable to take his chance against a Murray playing at <50% capability in that Miami final is precisely the sort of thing that makes me think him being ranked 2nd in the world would be a total joke.
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