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View Poll Results: who's got the luck from the draw?

Djokovic 63 60.00%
Murray 22 20.95%
Federer 3 2.86%
Nadal 13 12.38%
a new name? 4 3.81%
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:57 PM   #61
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Murray is the player i'm picking to win, but i dont think he's favorite i guess

1- Novak - Easy draw
2- Nadal - decent draw till Sfs had adv over murray in past.
3- Murray - Decent draw till Sfs, not played rafa since he became slamray

big gap
4- berdych/delpo/ferrer - in the far easier half of draw if someone takes out novak, and they were playing an exhausted murray in final? possible?

5- federer - defending champ but in poor from in 2013 -- No way he takes out Rafa, murray and Novak--- thats far too much for Fed at this stage in his career.

gap

6 tsonga - good grasscourt player, but draw from hell.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:05 PM   #62
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A Djokovic-Nadal Wimbledon final, again, would be . Djokovic wins his second Wimbledon title. Then we would have the 2 worst multiple Wimbledon winners of the open era in this era, not a coincidence.

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Old 06-21-2013, 09:14 PM   #63
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A Djokovic-Nadal Wimbledon final, again, would be . Djokovic wins his second Wimbledon title. Then we would have the 2 worst multiple Wimbledon winners of the open era in this era, not a coincidence.
well, let me put it this way, whoever wins is a deserving winner ... I know this might sound not 'too deep' but it is what it is
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well, let me put it this way, whoever wins is a deserving winner ... I know this might sound not 'too deep' but it is what it is
They are not on the same level on grass as Edberg who won wimbledon twice. I doubt either of them would win Wimbledon in that era.
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Djokovic- Hardest opening rounds of anyone with the very tricky Flo Mayer straight up, but pretty easy from there to Haas. I think the ease of his draw has been exaggerated due to Tommy though- he has never beat him on grass in 2 attempts. But Berdych in QF and Ferrer in SF is probably what he would've asked for (delPo in QF would have been preferable actually, but I'm sure he will take it). If he beats Ferrer quickly, he has the best chance of any player to be fresh for the final, but Federer, Murray, and Nadal are much more comfortable on grass than he is.

Murray- Murray has the easiest draw IMO, not Djokovic. He has a slightly tricky opener in streaky grass specialist Becker, but barring Mahut catching fire from there should absolutely cruise to QF (Youzhny or Tipsarevic in RO16) where he plays Tsonga, which would scare anyone else but Murray won't mind, given his record vs JWT. Then on to Nadal v Federer's winner (surely he'll root for Fed) who might be a bit tired and will have to adjust heavily to a different style. Final should be easier vs Djokovic on his worst surface, Ferrer on his worst surface, or Haas in his first Slam final. In answer to OP's question, he is my favorite.

Federer- Hardest draw probably of the top 5. Hanescu and Stakhovsky are two fairly hard unseeded matches. Then Rosol, Melzer, or Fognini, all dangerous. He won't be scared of Almagro on grass (where the Spaniard is a total servebot) but if it's Janowicz he might be a bit wary. In QF, of course, is Nadal and it probably all ends there. But he'd have to beat the other 3 of the big 4 to win after a pretty difficult draw to get there to begin with. Don't think so.

Ferrer- Ferrer is not good on grass, but he'll be pretty happy with his draw. Two rather easy matches to get to the dangerous but erratic Dolgopolov, who Ferrer will back himself to beat given Dolgo's form this year. Kohli will be very tough in the 4th round, but Ferrer is the favorite (Raonic is also there, but in very dire form). Then the easiest QF draw in del Potro- which I think may be Dimitrov, who could beat Ferrer on this surface but I still wouldn't quite favor. Then a SF with Djokovic, Berdych, or Haas- not entirely unwinnable. If he somehow wins that though, I can't see him beating Federer or Nadal on grass. Might have a microscopic chance vs Murray

Nadal- Very easy route to the 4th round- probably the easiest of any player- and Nadal will be happy for that in the part of the tournament he usually struggles. But the draw gets tough from there. Wawrinka, Hewitt, or Isner would be no pushover in the 4th round and then he goes from that moderately difficult match to one vs (most likely) Federer. Then after winning that, which he likely will, he gets to play Murray. If he can do that, taking down Djokovic on his worst surface should be the easiest part, but he is not exactly a pushover either and is a worse match up for Nadal than Federer or Murray.

Tsonga- The draw from hell award definitely goes to Tsonga. He gets to open against an out of form but talented Goffin. Then try to win a serving contest with Ernests Gulbis. His reward for that is Xavier Malisse or Julien Benneteau, who both have very tricky, streaky games. Marin Cilic is pretty good on grass and is his 4th round opponent- and he played Murray closer than Tsonga did in Queens. After that, Tsonga gets the reward of playing his worst match up, Andy Murray. Hard to see him having enough left there to get to a better match up in Nadal.

Berdych- Prone to early losses and very poor on the surface since losing the 2010 Wimbledon final, Berdych could not have asked for a better early draw. He should crush Klizan and is the favorite against Brands and his favorite player in Anderson. I don't know about getting past Gasquet in the round of 16 for Berdych and would back the Frenchman but if he does he gets to play Djokovic who he has beaten here before for a spot in the semis.

del Potro- Very shaky grass career aside from the Olympic bronze on grass that didn't play much like grass. He will be worried about Dimitrov in the 3rd round for sure, even if he gets by fairly harmless first and second round opponents. If he survives that he is rewarded with the man who is the worst match up for him, Nishikori (assuming he beats the out of form Seppi). Then Ferrer, who beat him here last year. Hard to see Ferrer and Djokovic back to back in best of five on the slower courts of the second week, and if he were somehow to he'd have no chance against Nadal, Murray, or probably Federer.

tl;dr: Murray
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They are not on the same level on grass as Edberg who won wimbledon twice. I doubt either of them would win Wimbledon in that era.
no, they are not. Also, grass is completely different now then when Edberg was playing. nothing you can do about it. I mean, if you have to choose, do you think that Murray or Fed would be 'more deserving' winners, or maybe someone else?
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I picked Novak as the player with the easiest draw "On Paper"
But Hass and Berdych have exposed the chinks in Novak's game earlier in 2009 and 10 at Wimbledon and off late in 2013 too.

If he crosses the above two his SF is easy (Ferrer or Del Potro - in his current form are easy picking)

* Rafa making the final has only one road block _ Andy.

Rafa Vs Novak final is highly probable.

It is too early to predict the outcome of the @ match up. We need to see how the two manage the transition to grass from caly. Both of them chose to skip preparatory tournaments.

It will be close but based on recent performance , I will give Rafa a slight edge.

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The winner will be Novak, Andy or Rafa. Really too close to call. The draw in some ways helps Nadal as he has a pretty easy first week (which he usually finds tough) and then players he knows really well in the later rounds that he also has good records against. I see Nadal making at least SF. That match v Andy too tough to call though. I'd favour the winner of Andy/Nadal in the final though as they'd have to really have stepped up their game in the SF in a way that Novak wouldn't have to vs Delpo/Ferrer.
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Nadal is still a lock.
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With that draw we'll probably have a Murray-Djokovic final with highlander taking the title, if he copes with the pressure.
this draw is very unkind to Murray, how do you see him making the final?

the odds are far more likely that Tsonga tires out Murray in the QF's than Federer tiring out Nadal

just based on recent form and matches in the H2H's, you have to imagine Murray-Tsonga could go more than 3 sets and Federer/Nadal to be relatively straight forward

if that happens Murray won't have a prayer. he's never beaten Nadal on grass and clearly has a mental hiccup with him

Djokovic - Nadal final seems fairly likely
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