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Old 02-20-2005, 09:42 PM   #46
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You know, as someone who has nearly blind faith and loyalty to a particular player, I can almost understand this comment, but you need to sprinkle a bit of reality on it.
Well, sorry but I'm not going to even entertain the thought that he could lose just because he's having it tough. Nor am I only going to show my support for him when he's winning. I support him no matter what.

As you said, "that was last year." Well, his lost to Cakl was last week. He's going to have that turnaround soon. Whether it's this week, next week, takes a few months whatever.

I'm not going to sit here and be hypocritical and say I support him but say that he could lose just because others say that I need a reality check. I'm going to believe that he's going to win unless I'm told otherwise by a scoreline. You support someone your way and I will do it mine.

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Blake injured his arm when he played Alex last year in Newport (five days after his father died, how he even showed up for that tournament, I will never understand).
I don't deny that losing his father was a hard thing for James to have to deal with and still do his job. It's probably still something that he deals with. But you don't know anymore than I do that if things had been different with James that Alex still wouldn't have beaten him. I don't understand why everytime that Alex gets a good win there's excuses to go with it. Haas, Fish, Blake. It's not like he was ever handed the win. But I understand that I'm up against fans of Fish and Blake here so it's best just to .

No matter what other people may think I saw that match that Alex played against James and he earned that QF spot in Newport last year.
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I suggest being as negative as possible about your favorites, then you're never disappointed!

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That's so odd, Fee. I don't understand why they'd refuse someone like him a WC.

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Yea, but would you be just as negative to your "favorites" faces . Saying one thing but believing another. If I suspected anything like that from someone I wouldn't want them around me but that's just me
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I'd never go up and talk to any of them so I guess not. But it doesn't matter what I think, it matters what they think. Just because they should always be confident going onto the court doesn't mean I have to be to save my own sanity To each her own.
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Yea, but would you be just as negative to your "favorites" faces . Saying one thing but believing another. If I suspected anything like that from someone I wouldn't want them around me but that's just me
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I'd never go up and talk to any of them so I guess not. But it doesn't matter what I think, it matters what they think. Just because they should always be confident going onto the court doesn't mean I have to be to save my own sanity To each her own.
Them?

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It's my personal perogative to leave 'famous' people alone. Last year in scottsdale before Andy and Jan-Mike's QF match, Andy was warming up on the court and there was almost no one in the stadium. It was like, my mom and me, and this other guy. This guy asks to borrow a pen from my mom so she gives him one, then as Andy finishes his warmup (we're talking like 30 minutes before the match began, at the most) this guy butts into Andy's conversation with Brad and asks him to sign the back of his ticket. Andy was cool about it, but you could see it really annoyed him b/c he was trying to focus and here was this guy hounding him for an autograph. That really bothered me.

I think there's a time and place for it. Like Fee did transportation in San Jose, obviously she was gonna talk to the players lol. But for ME personally, I'm just gonna leave the poor guys alone - they have enough other people nagging at them from all corners, so I'd just rather stand back and observe. I learn a lot about people that way, plus then I can just take pics and pics are my favorite way to remember stuff anyway. And it's just not my style to find out where players will be when and stalk it out and find them and go up to them, I'm just not comfortable with it.

When I'm their lawyer, maybe that'll be different.
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That's not what I'm talking about, Deb. You take away all the "famous" crap and defining "them" as "players" and you get a person. A human being. I know. I take all the fun out of going ecstatic at the sight of a "favorite." I think being in the situation I am I just don't understand the drooling and admiration. Not like I did before because I despise anything to do with celebrity. I just don't understand treating people differently because the sports/entertainment field being their career of choice. I was like you, in a way, where I only used to go wath tennis matches no matter who was playing. If it was someone's game that I liked and was familar with it was better but it didn't have to be. Things were definitely easier back then
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But that's my point, you confirmed it perhaps inadvertantly lol - they are normal people. I'd never go up to a normal person on the street and start talking to them, that's not me. So why would I do that to someone else just b/c I've seen him play tennis on tv or something?

I don't look at matches realistically because I have no faith, I look at them realistically because I am a realist. It's the way I am, you're the way you are, we're all the way we are and we all have that right and shouldn't have to defend it. I'm just saying this is where I come from. You can be realistic about Alex having a tough draw and it doesn't mean you have any less faith in him, it's just a different perspective.
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I'd never go up and talk to any of them so I guess not. But it doesn't matter what I think, it matters what they think. Just because they should always be confident going onto the court doesn't mean I have to be to save my own sanity To each her own.
That's probably good methodology Deb. . Lord knows, I've had days nearly ruined by some of JanMike's losses, probably more so out of empathy for him than anything else, and that match he lost in front of me last week in San Jose was especially hard to take (until he came back and played much better in Doubles). My life was much easier before I met all of these guys in some ways, but in some ways it has been very special and quite a privilege, so I wouldn't change it. I support my guys, and I believe in them fully (unless I know something about a particular match, like Tommy's back soreness), but I just can't bring myself to make bold statements about anyone's draw or anyone's chances in a match (not even Roger). Maybe I don't want to jinx them, maybe I've been around long enough to see odd things happen in tennis, or maybe I don't want to look like a complete fool (I do that in plenty of other ways ), but I prefer to find some blend of positive and realistic. And yes, I think I am honest to all of them in person.
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I don't see it as a tough draw though. Everyone else does. Might have to give Kenneth a bit more credit (after today) but that's about it.

I understand that it's your personal pregorative to not approach any of the professionals but also understand that a little bit of true encouragement (not the "oh you're so cute" kind...the kind that tells him/her what you think of how they play/compete) from a supporter/stranger can help a bit. I met Alex just by approaching him shortly after a match in 2002 (had been following his results and "silently" supporting him up til then) and telling him what I thought of how he plays. I didn't think that short conversation would lead me to where I am today .

Anyway, I understand your position. I just want you to know that there is a happy medium . Personally, I steer clear when the autograph hounds are around and those certain females that seem to be on a mission
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Maybe I don't want to jinx them, maybe I've been around long enough to see odd things happen in tennis, or maybe I don't want to look like a complete fool (I do that in plenty of other ways ), but I prefer to find some blend of positive and realistic. And yes, I think I am honest to all of them in person.
I don't worry about jinxing Alex in this case. I didn't say that he will win. I have only stressed in my belief that this draw should give him confidence and belief that he should win. If he doesn't win...then he doesn't win. He'll win the next match he plays. And I'll keep believing that. As I said in one of my earlier posts if this week isn't his turnaround then it could happen next week or in a few weeks or a few months.

And maybe you didn't mean it this way but I've also been around this game for a LONG time. It's not like Alex is the first person that I've liked to watch play. He is, however, the first person that I've actively supported. It doesn't change the fact that I'm aware of what can & should go wrong. Does that mean I should sit here and be a hypocrite and say what people think I should? "I believe in Alex but..." Not going to happen.

I guess you're just the better person, Fee
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