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Old 02-22-2005, 01:00 PM   #1
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Could someone who speaks Spanish well PLEASE translate this into English. Its very important. I know this is VERY much, but i hope someone could find the time.
well, it would already help me a lot if someone could just make a summary of what the whole text is about (so not so much work as translate the whole text).




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Los aztecas

La historia de Mesoamérica

Como sabes, en la región que llamamos Mesoamérica hay diversos paisajes, desde las montanas nevadas hasta las costas tropicales. Hace unos siglos, la región era más húmeda que ahora.


En muchos lugares que hoy son bastante secos, como el Valle de México, habia bosques, lagos y pantanos. Abundaban los animales para la caceria y la pesca, y muchas plantas que podian relolectarse. Habia una agricultua muy productiva, de la que vivia una población más numerosa y densa que la otros lugares de América. El comercio, las migraciones y las expediciones militares difundieron la inlfluencia de los pueblos más avanzados. Por eso hay costumbres, creencias y formas de trabajo que son comunes a todos los pueblos de Mesoamérica. Los especialistas dividen la historia de Mesoamérica en tres periodos. Estos periodos son:

- El Formativo o Preclásico: desde 1800 a.C., cuando se extienden las aldeas agricolas permanentes, hasta 200 d. C.
- El Clásico: desde el ano 200 al 800. Es el tiempo de esplendor de numerosas ciudades independientes y de los grandes centros ceremoniales.
- El Postclásico: desde el ano 800 hasta la llegada de los espanoles. Al principio de este periodo, las ciudades más importantes de Mesoamérica fueron abandonadas o destruidas. Después habia el gran senorio azteca, que dominaba gran parte de Mesoamérica a principios del siglo , el siglo de la Conquista.



Infancia y juventud en la sociedad azteca

El nacimiento

Cuando nacia un nino azteca se celebraba mucho. Las celebraciones se prolongaban durante varios dias en los que los astrólogos comprobaban qué dia ser favorable para darle nombre al nino.

Juegos infantiles

Hasta que alcanzaban la edad en que tenian que ayudar a sus padres en su trabajo, los ninos jugaban fuera y dentro de la casa. Este juguete enia la forma de un perro sobre ruedas.

La educación
La infancia duraba solo hasta los seis o siete anos. Los ninos mayores observaban a sus padres en sus tareas.
Aparentemente, hombres y mujeres, ricos y pobres, iban a la escuela, al cuicacalli, entre los doce y los quince anos de edad. En el cuicacalli o telpochcalli se ensenaba conocimientos generales, canto, danza, y se aprendia a tocar diferentes instrumentos musicales. El aspecto más importante de la ensenanza del telpochcalli o cuicacalli era marcial: conocer el manejo de los instrumentos de guerra. El otro tipo de escuela era el calmecac. Los hijos de los nobles o mercaderes iban al calmecac (escuela del templo) para convertirse en sacerdotes.

Los castigos
Desde la edad de los once anos, los ninos aztecas desobedientes eran castigados por sus padres. Entre los castigos se encontraban pincharles la piel con espinas y hacerles inhalar humo, sosteniéndoles sobre una hoguera con pimientos picantes.



La vida cotidiana de los aztecas

Para obtener sus alimentos los aztecas utilizaban la pesca, la caza, la recolección y el cultivo. Sembraban principalmente maiz y además frijol, chile, tomates, calabaza, asi como bledos. Tenian una división social del trabajo. Los hombres y jóvenes cazaban, pescaban, cultivaban y cosechaban. Las mujeres hacian labores complementarias, se ocupaban de las casa y de la educación de los ninos pequenos.

Con el término chinampa se designa en México a un huerto flotante situado sobre ina laguna y en el que se cultivan flores y hortalizas. Los aztecas utilizaban esos jardines para una horticultura intensiva.


La organización del imperio azteca

El poder de los aztecas se debia a su organización militar, al valor de sus soldados y a la habilidad de sus gobernantes. Los aztecas formaban alianzas con otros pueblos que no querian arriesgar una guerra.
Los tributos llegaban a Tenochtitlan de todas las regiones de imperio: alimentos, tejidos, articulos preciosos, y también cautivos destinados al sacrificio. Esa riqueza convirtió a la capital azteca en una ciudad deslumbrante.

Tenochtitlan
La capital azteca como minimo tenia 100 mil habitantes, pero algunos estiman que pasaba de 200 mil. Tenochtitlan estaba en islotes situados en el interior de uno de los lagos de poca profundidad, que en aquella época cubrian la mayor parte del Valle de México.

La religión de los aztecas
Los aztecas eran un pueblo de profunda religiosidad. Tenian numerosas deidades. Los aztecas pensaban que se debia demostrar su gratitud a los dioses, para evitar las catástrofes que su ira podia causar a los hombres. Por esa razón habia tantos ritos religiosis y monumentales centros ceremoniales. Habia sacrificios humanos y rituales de soportar intensos dolores fisicos que los creyentes se producian intencionalmente. Sacrificaban a muchos prisioneros en sus templos.

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Old 02-22-2005, 01:06 PM   #2
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use their babelfish translator -- it's free
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Babelfish sucks. I learned Spanish at school but it´s not good enough anymore to translate the whole entire text.
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yeah. thanks but babelfish doesnt help me at all.


it would also already help me a lot if someone could just make a summary of what the whole text is about (so not so much work as translate the whole text).
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use bablefish in small chunks and then use your knowledge of english to make the translation perfect.
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also surely you can get the same information (about the aztecs) on an english site?
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yeah. thanks but babelfish doesnt help me at all.


it would also already help me a lot if someone could just make a summary of what the whole text is about (so not so much work as translate the whole text).
That's a lot of work, mate. I can't translate it but I can give you a link to some translator that is a lot better than altavista. Try this one:

http://www.mx.educaterra.com/hojasbb...42_540_esp_5__
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The Aztecs

Mesoamerica's history

As you know, in the region that we are called Mesoamerica there are diverse landscapes, from the mountainous snowfalls up to the tropical coasts. A few centuries ago, the region was more humid than now.

In many places that today are dry enough, as the Valley of Mexico, there were forests, lakes and marshes. The animals were abounding for the hunt and the fishing, and many plants that could be gathered. There was a very productive agriculture, of which there was living a more numerous and dense population that other places of America. The trade, the migrations and the military expeditions spread the influence of the most advanced villages. Because of it there are customs, beliefs and forms of work that are common to all the villages of Mesoamerica. The specialists divide Mesoamerica's history in three periods. These periods are:

- Formative or Preclassic one: from 1800 B.C., when there spread the agricultural permanent villages, up to 200 A.D.
- The Classic one: from the 200 to 800. It is the time of brilliance of numerous independent cities and of the big ceremonial centers.
- The Postclassic one: from the 800 up to the arrival of the Spanish. Initially of this period, the most important cities of Mesoamerica were left or destroyed. Later there was the great Aztec dominion, which was dominating great part of Mesoamerica at the beginning of the century, the century of the Conquest.

Infancy and youth in the Aztec society

The birth

When a aztec child was born, his birth was celebrated very much. The celebrations were extending for several days in which the astrologers were verifying what day was the best to give name to the child.

Infantile games

Until they were reaching the age in which they had to help to parents in their work, the children were playing out and inside the house. This toy had the form of a dog on wheels.

The education
The infancy lasted only up to six or seven years old. The major children were observing his parents in their tasks.
Seemingly, men and women, rich and poor, were going to the school, the cuicacalli among the twelve and fifteen years old. In the cuicacalli or telpochcalli there was taught general knowledges, singing, dance, and one was learning to touch different musical instruments. The most important aspect of the education of the telpochcalli or cuicacalli was martial: to know the managing of the instruments of war. Another type of school was the calmecac. The children of the nobles or merchants were going to the calmecac (school of the temple) to turn into priests.

The punishments
From the 11years old, the Aztec disobedient children were punished by his parents. Among the punishments they were finding to puncture the skin with thorns and to make them inhale smoke, supporting them on a bonfire with piquant peppers.



The daily life of the Aztecs

To obtain their food the Aztecs were using the fishing, the hunt, the compilation and the culturing. They were sowing principally corn and in addition bean, chili, tomatoes, gourd, this way as wild aramanths. They had a social division of the work. The men and young men were hunting, were going fishing, were cultivating and harvesting. The women were doing complementary labors, were dealing whit home stuff and of the education of the children.

The chinampa term it is designated in Mexico to a floating garden placed on a lagoon and in that flowers and vegetables are cultivated. The Aztecs were using these gardens for an intensive horticulture.

The organization of the Aztec empire

The power of the Aztecs was owed to his military organization, to the value of his soldiers and to the skill of his leaders. The Aztecs were forming alliances with other villages that did not want to risk a war.
The taxes were coming to Tenochtitlan of all the regions of the empire: food, fabrics, precious articles, and also captive people destined for the sacrifice. This wealth turned to the Aztec capital in a dazzling city.

Tenochtitlan
The Aztec capital had as minimal 100 thousand inhabitants, but some of them think that it was passing from 200 thousand. Tenochtitlan was in islands placed inside one of the lakes of little depth, which in that era were covering most of the Valley of Mexico.

The religion of the Aztecs

The Aztecs were a village of deep religiousness. They had numerous deities. The Aztecs were thinking that it had to demonstrate his gratitude to the gods, to avoid the catastrophes that his ire could cause to the men. For this reason there were so many religious rites and monumental ceremonial centers. There were human and ritual sacrifices of supporting intense physical pains that the believers were taking place intentionally. They were sacrificing many prisoners in his temples.








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la traducción es buena, hay algunos errores menores pero no se deben a ti sino al texto original, como sea no son errores importantes. el artículo aunque generaliza demasiado es correcto y veraz en términos generales.

Lo que me sorprende es que te hayas tomado el tiempo de traducir todo eso!
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wow Caro...para mi la traduccion esta muy bien!!!! q linda eres en traducir todo eso!!!!!!!! wow otra vez!!!!
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Lo que me sorprende es que te hayas tomado el tiempo de traducir todo eso!
Lo que pasa es que a mi tambien me conviene porque así aprovecho de ejercitar el inglés...ad+ lo hice en un ratito libre que tuve en la oficina
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wow Caro...para mi la traduccion esta muy bien!!!! q linda eres en traducir todo eso!!!!!!!! wow otra vez!!!!
Nahh...jaja si no es pa tanto, pero gracias
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