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Old 01-27-2014, 03:21 PM   #901
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Sorry Prodigy, I forgot that question.

No, I don't think so. That's right on smaller forums everything works on different way but this premium account is about all of VS's forums. It won't change. And non-premium members won't be able to use pics on signs as it's an advantage for premium users.
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:34 PM   #902
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(18) Do not start threads or make posts or reps that make serious allegations about a player that can not be substantiated with independent and cast-iron evidence..
Treat this as an individual case, on it's own individual merits.

How does raising the "suspicions" about a player potentially having feigned an injury during a tennis match equate to the same as making an "allegation" that he/she did?

I have toned down my banter, as my humor is dry and some posters around here may misconstrue it as offensive and therefore that makes what I've said go against the rules. However, in this instance, with regard the rules that have been set, I have not done anything wrong and I firmly believe you're using the fact I do have previous infractions to my name as something against me.

I rose "suspicion" I never made a direct alleation. Read the title, Nadal feigning injury; bla bla bla ... THEORIES inside.

Is this an allegation or bringing up a sense of suspicion and doubt? Read it in any context you like, you cannot prove by the words used that what I put in either my title or my OP that I was making a direct or indirect allegation.

It is natural to cast doubt on tennis players and the legitamacy of their injuries; commentators, pundits and player's themselves do it.... they aren't sued, as these are suspicions, being skeptical and raising awareness of disingenuous antics. They are NOT allegations, which is what is clearly stated as being what is against the rules.

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Old 01-27-2014, 04:33 PM   #903
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Sorry Prodigy, I forgot that question.

No, I don't think so. That's right on smaller forums everything works on different way but this premium account is about all of VS's forums. It won't change. And non-premium members won't be able to use pics on signs as it's an advantage for premium users.
Ok thanks.

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And, Roger Federer ranks 5th.

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Old 01-27-2014, 04:55 PM   #904
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http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=398265

Why is player bashing like this allowed?

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:14 PM   #905
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It isn't, I guess sometimes we just miss stuff

I think I just might not have been around when that thread was started, and it went for a little bit and hasn't been bumped in a few days. Sorry bout that, thanks for pointing it out, though. It's dealt with
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No, basically Prodigy. What they mean is I am a marked man, so even if I've done very little wrong, they will be prepared to penalise someone like me and then not justify how drawing suspicion on a player is the same as drawing alegation on a player.

They didn't miss it. I can single handedly go right through the first page in general and hand pick several playerbashing threads, but because none of these were made by someone they hold as supposedly out to cause trouble or whatever you wanna call it, they don't care.
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That will be enough, Clutch. We heard you, and we responded to you. Stop disrupting the forum.

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That will be enough, Clutch. We heard you, and we responded to you. Stop disrupting the forum.
Okay. Could you just answer the bit about suspicions being alegations?
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Okay. Could you just answer the bit about suspicions being alegations?
Do you really think this is going to get you anywhere?

No, I'm finished trying to discuss things with you, because you don't accept any answer that we give you. Just follow the rules, they're right here. http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...php?p=16731481

And stop disparaging the mods, and basically calling us liars. I say I missed something, and you respond "they didn't miss it," because it's all a huge conspiracy against you, right? You aren't a "marked man," you're a user who keeps stirring the pot. Knock it off, by now you should see that all of this is not gaining you anything. There is no use for all this drama.

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Just my 5 cents on the issue.

Those "my player only loses when he's injured" threads/posts are really annoying. I think this is ok on Live Commentary thread, but not in the GM. There is no other reason to do that besides baiting "rival fanboys" or just troll the GM board. I reported one of those yesterday and I'm glad Sonja1989 closed the thread.

That being said, I don't believe ClutchOnAndWin's thread fits this mold, more like a "conspiracy theory" kind of post. Not my kind of thread either, but I don't think his intention was to bait someone or bash some player.
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Just my 5 cents on the issue.

Those "my player only loses when he's injured" threads/posts are really annoying. I think this is ok on Live Commentary thread, but not in the GM. There is no other reason to do that besides baiting "rival fanboys" or just troll the GM board. I reported one of those yesterday and I'm glad Sonja1989 closed the thread.

That being said, I don't believe ClutchOnAndWin's thread fits this mold, more like a "conspiracy theory" kind of post. Not my kind of thread either, but I don't think his intention was to bait someone or bash some player.
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That being said, I don't believe ClutchOnAndWin's thread fits this mold, more like a "conspiracy theory" kind of post. Not my kind of thread either, but I don't think his intention was to bait someone or bash some player.
Intention aside, the result was exactly baiting I'm afraid. I have nothing against Clutch. Some of his posts are worthy of the Knowledge Competition, but that thread did indeed do a lot of baiting. I am really sorry, but he's gonna try to avoid discussions of this kind until evidence, real hard evidence presents itself.
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Intention aside, the result was exactly baiting I'm afraid. I have nothing against Clutch. Some of his posts are worthy of the Knowledge Competition, but that thread did indeed do a lot of baiting. I am really sorry, but he's gonna try to avoid discussions of this kind until evidence, real hard evidence presents itself.
You said it yourself, the thread brought about baiting. The title or OP brought about a suspicion as opposed to any real direct alegation. This is hence also why I said; "theories inside".

I'm sorry I brought about others to bait Nadal fans, it is probably true that the thread was an opportunity for those to pounce and try and take their stabs at Nadal, these are separate issues and ones that IMO should be dealt independently.

Anyway, it's passed now. I'm not gonna have 2 moderators vote against the infraction or for the readding of the thread. They could just delete the posts inside the thread that were baiting to Nadal fans and that would be that.

Thanks for your response.

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http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=401641

Which interpretation of thinking are the moderators using here?

This is player smooching I suppose.
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:13 PM   #915
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It can't stay in GM for sure as it isn't about actual tennis. It isn't against rules, OP clearly didn't mean on anything bad meaning and the thread seems OK so far.

It should be OK on Off tennis forum.
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