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Old 05-12-2013, 08:50 PM   #76
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Accumulation of forum disruptions - 1 week - Same number of active red cards as pusher for life.

TopSpinDoctor received a warning/infraction as well for the exact same thing, however, he has not accumulated to the level of a banning yet.

Also, this is based off of a rule that the MTF members asked for a month ago in the suggestion section, so to blame moderators is hilarious.
I mean, it is not such a bad length of time, 1 week, ok whatever.

What we the people disagree with is how such infractions come to be infractions. To give infractions for "forum disruption" when "forum disruption" is defined as a garden variety joke thread title, we need to have a discussion about the definition of "forum disruption".
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:34 PM   #77
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I mean, it is not such a bad length of time, 1 week, ok whatever.

What we the people disagree with is how such infractions come to be infractions. To give infractions for "forum disruption" when "forum disruption" is defined as a garden variety joke thread title, we need to have a discussion about the definition of "forum disruption".
Fair point. I do agree to an extent, but not in this case.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...6&postcount=14

Also, it was in the announcements section for two weeks and was not enforced with an infraction for a month while people adjusted.

I am a bit confused and maybe you can help me a bit. Users make rule suggestions and then when moderators follow through with user suggestions but a friend of the user who created the rule is caught breaking it, it is the moderators fault?

I'm not sure what moderators could have done differently, other than not listen to the user suggestions. A decision was made, there were two weeks of nothing but PMs send to users who maybe were not aware yet. Then two weeks of an announcement saying this was coming, still with a PM going to offenders. Then when the announcement was removed at the start of this week, people began to get warnings or infractions for forum disruptions, exactly as we said would happen. A few other users got one this week and it each case, they were like 'oh yeah, I forgot but its fair' type of response. If you have a suggestion about how we could implement it more fairly, please let me know.
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rutinos harcos banned?

To be fair I expected this one. What was he banned for?
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To be fair I expected this one. What was he banned for?
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Just curious--when one mod makes a decision, can another mod just decide to reverse it without having a discussion first?
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could you post few examples of baiting posts ?

I have been reporting it mulitple times but those posts didn't even get deleted, not to talk about infractions for it then . So or I am dumb and don't understand when somebody baiting me or mods are blind when i am reporting it and work fast when somebody reports me
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ofc, nobody excepts from them to be consistent all the time, i am the first one who will admit that dealing with so many reported posts is anything but an easy job but when you are getting banned for some of the most common posts and on your reports they are acting deaf it's something more than inconsistency. Don't want to talk about my bans and infractions but some of them were beyond pathetic ( including the last one). OK, obviously I am having subject look at some situations but some are more than unexplainable. Explanations which I was getting were pure utopia, i would appreciate more if somebody says me "you are stupid moron and we don't want you here" than reasonable explanation of something what can't be reasonable, I have always appreciated the truth more than acting of being nice when you don't think it . I made 13000+ posts at this board and currently I am not sure if I could repeat any from at least 11000 of them without getting banned.
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Mods are doing a great job lately, keep it up guys!
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yep, that's what i am talking about. one guy non stop quoting your posts with off topic baits, you are eating his shits most of the time, you get in one off topic debate, he goes whines to mods and I am getting banned without crossing the line more than he did. After he gloats about it like he had nothing with it and mods are OK with it

You can ban me if you want for how long do you want but won't get over it like till now. I am not starting any of these things so at least I can start explain it


When we are talking about baiting examples, tell me is it baiting when somebody who provoked and caused your ban directly putting it at your face after you came back from it ?

If isn't what do you think what would be appropriate answer on it ? Sorry it was my fault you can continue to shit on me ?
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yep, that's what i am talking about. one guy non stop quoting your posts with off topic baits, you are eating his shits most of the time, you get in one off topic debate, he goes whines to mods and I am getting banned without crossing the line more than he did. After he gloats about it like he had nothing with it and mods are OK with it

You can ban me if you can for how long do you want but won't get over it like till now. I am not starting any of these things so at least I can start explain it


When we are talking about baiting examples, tell me is it baiting when somebody who provoked and caused your ban directly putting it at your face after you came back from it ?

If isn't what do you think what would be appropriate answer on it ? Sorry it was my fault you can continue to shit on me ?
What are you talking about? Where am I putting anything "at your face"? About me being happy after you got banned, well why wouldn't I be? You insulted me, deserved your ban, and I was happy the mods made the right decision.
And by the way, in that off topic conversation, in what way did I cross the line more than you did? You insulted me, I didn't insult you, seems quite easy to see who crossed the line.
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yeah really a filthy insult, open any random thread in GM and you'll find more insulting posts in any of them, when Petarpan sweared my mother on Croatian in GM, mods didn't do a single thing about, that was perfect example how fair treatment I am having at this place, you know for this situation because you were the one who appreciated that post

and stop acting clueless nice guy here, anybody with two healthy brain cells would get your point in that post, "accidentally" after i posted those 2 posts you arrived here with that post, Prodigy also understood it on the same way like i did so it isn't like i am imagining anything

if mods aren't protecting you, you would have numerous baiting infractions already, when i don't like somebody I am avoiding him but you constantly quoting my posts with baiting quotes to try to provoke the situation, this clearly explains intention of your quotes
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I am quoting your posts, but not baiting you to insult me. Don't look for excuses for what you did.
About me being protected - I got banned for posting a funny picture of an old man holding his chest and saying "Right in the grammar". So yeah, that's how protected I am.
Mods are doing a good job lately, that's all I said and meant. MTF is not all about you, you know.
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yeah, purpose of non stop quoting the posts and sending badreeps every few days to someone you don't like is to have a healthy conversation with him

i see you are lying again (hopefully saying that somebody is a liar with having proves isn't a personal attack), you were banned for posting these same picture numerous times, you were banned for sending bareps with same comments for on game posts which i make in GM, you were banned for multiple quotes with riddance to my english


at the end I can say this, you can say that but irrefutable fact is that i am not coming at you, ignoring you most of the time and you are doing everything to get in fights, these says all about our intentions . if there is no cause there wouldn't be cosequences neither. but shame, nobody cares to detect the cause of some situation but everybody is fast to bring the cosequences
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