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Old 04-22-2013, 03:48 PM   #76
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Well crap. I missed the OOP and thought we were starting Tuesday
Plus my doubles partner didn't copy me
Don't worry, there are still five more matches, we could even win tomorrow if you send then.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:52 PM   #77
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Tuesday OOP
Bar: Colin Fleming/Jonathan Marray vs Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi/Jean-Julien Rojer SR1 PTS
Buc: Christopher Kas/Florian Mayer vs Santiago Gonzalez/Scott Lipsky SR2 (PTS for doubles)
Buc: Nicolas Mahut/Gilles Simon vs Frantisek Cermak/Michal Mertinak SR3 (PTS for doubles)
Buc: Eric Butorac/Paul Hanley vs Martin Emmrich/Jarkko Nieminen SR4 (PTS for doubles)
Bar: Mariusz Fyrstenberg/Marcin Matkowski vs Treat Huey/Jerzy Janowicz SR5 (PTS for doubles)

Bar: Robert Lindstedt/Daniel Nestor vs Nicolas Almagro/Nenad Zimonjic SR4 Singles R16 (SR6 PTS for doubles)
Bar: Albert Montanes/Gerard Granollers vs Marc Lopez/Marcel Granollers SR5 Singles R16 (SR7 PTS for doubles)
Bar: Ivan Dodig/Marcelo Melo vs Grigor Dimitrov/Radek Stepanek SR5 Singles R16 (SR6 PTS for doubles)
Buc: Marius Copil/Gael Monfils vs Andreas Seppi/Viktor Troicki SR6 Singles R16 (SR7 PTS for doubles)


Please use the following simplified OOP:

Fleming vs Qureshi SR1 PTS
Kas vs Gonzalez SR2 (PTS for doubles)
Mahut vs Cermak SR3 (PTS for doubles)
Butorac vs Emmrich SR4 (PTS for doubles)
Fyrstenberg vs Huey SR5 (PTS for doubles)

Lindstedt vs Almagro SR4 Singles R16 (SR6 PTS for doubles)
Montanes vs Lopez SR5 Singles R16 (SR7 PTS for doubles)
Dodig vs Dimitrov SR5 Singles R16 (SR6 PTS for doubles)
Copil vs Seppi SR6 Singles R16 (SR7 PTS for doubles)


Matches in green count for day 2 of a 2 day round for for singles R32
Matches in blue count for day 1 of a 2 day round for for singles R16
All matches count for day 2 of a 2 day round doubles R16.
Matches start at 11:00 CEST. Please send picks to Gavnich77.
Gavnich77, *Jean*, Eurofighter, Hidalgo and Indiegor should send to Sonja1989

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Old 04-22-2013, 03:56 PM   #78
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Please be careful to pick either Montanes or Lopez and NOT Granollers in that match
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:19 PM   #79
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Singles Round 1

Matches Counted: 3
Matches Remaining: 5


02:02 | (1) Don Corleone vs. VamosHoracio (ARG) #SRs: 0-1
02:02 | Björki (GER) vs. Adder A216 (NED) #SRs: 1-1
02:01 | Lucian Iasi (ROU) vs. Coolfish1103 (USA) #SRs: 0-0
02:02 | (ALT) Spain07 (SUI) vs. (8) Anin (CAN) #SRs: 0-0

02:01 | (5) KingDocy (GER) vs. Dupuis2006 (CAN) #SRs: 0-0
01:01 | DJDVD (NED) vs. (ALT) 156mphserve (CAN) #SRs: 0-0
02:02 | Eddy DoubleD (ROU) vs. Sonja1989 (HUN) #SRs: 0-0
01:03 | GoOudinUSA (USA) vs. (3) Lisandro (BRA) #SRs: 0-2

01:02 | (4) Supertec (ESP) vs. Bry17may (ARG) #SRs: 0-0
02:01 | AdeyC (GBR) vs. Cswab22 (USA) #SRs: 1-0
03:02 | Matthew2408 (GBR) vs. Chris. (AUS) #SRs: 2-0
02:02 | Indiegor (UKR) vs. (7) Cheeky Chick (GBR) #SRs: 2-1

02:02 | (6) Abollo (EGY) vs. Hidalgo (RUS) #SRs: 1-0
02:02 | Supertom (FRA) vs. (ALT) Digor (UKR) #SRs: 0-0
02:02 | Marto (BUL) vs. *Jean* (FRA) #SRs: 1-1
01:02 | Gavnich77 (GBR) vs. (2) Eurofighter (GER) #SRs: 0-0

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Doubles Round 1

Matches Counted: 3
Matches Remaining: 9


04:03 | Abollo/Supertom (EGY/FRA) vs. (ALT) Milton/Nicksimioni (BRA/BRA) #SRs: 1-0
04:04 | Chris./Eurofighter (AUS/GER) vs. Eddy_DoubleD/Lucian_iasi (ROU/ROU) #SRs: 0-0
05:02 | Anin/Lisandro (CAN/BRA) vs. Adder A216/Diego36Arg (NED/NED) #SRs: 2-1
02:04 | Cava/VamosHoracio (CZE/ARG) vs. (4) KingDocy/Marto (GER/BUL) #SRs: 1-1

03:03 | (3) Björki/Dupuis2006 (GER/CAN) vs. GoOudinUSA/Sonja1989 (USA/HUN) #SRs: 1-0
03:04 | *Jean*/Gavnich77 (FRA/GBR) vs. Hidalgo/Indiegor (RUS/UKR) #SRs: 1-2
04:03 | DJDVD/Matthew2408 (NED/GBR) vs. AdeyC/Cswab22 (GBR/USA) #SRs: 2-1
01:02 | 156mphserve/Ibreak4coffee (CAN) vs. (2) Coolfish1103/Supertec (USA/ESP) #SRs: 0-0

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:25 PM   #81
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Wait, how did we go from 16 teams into the main draw to 15?

I know they all didn't send but wouldn't it be more fair to have a team where 1 person sent(like me and coffee) instead of an outright bye in the draw?
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:37 PM   #82
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It does seem a bit strange but I was unable to find a TT rule that clarified this situation so I followed Coolfish's which thinking about it now doesn't seem to make sense but no-one has been able to offer a fairer solution all day.
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from the TT FAQ thread which I believe we were following for DTT rules as well.

1. Check if there are matches where both players didn't send picks. If so, the manager should place a LL there, so there is no win by Ranking.
2. After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O.
3. After that, if there are any alternates or lucky losers placed against a player/team who didn't send picks, the draw should be adjusted in order to give the byes to the best ranked players who enter the draw directly. The alternates and lucky losers should play their first round matches against the opponents of the players who were given the byes.

There's nothing about doubles matches however.

What I would have done...

1. Placed a ALT team into a match where both players didn't send if any such match exists.
2. If there are still ALT teams remaining then place them into the spot against the lowest ranked team whose opponent didn't send.

I wouldn't have outright replaced any team with a bye. If ytou were going to switch teams around in the draw(I think that's step 3 from above) then instead of replacing a team that didn't send with a bye I would have just swapped the teams in the draw so the ALT team got to face a lower ranked opponent and the higher ranked opponent got to face a team where 1 player didn't send and not a free bye.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:45 PM   #84
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now that I know what the actual scenario was(as in which teams didn't send) here's what I would have done.

1. Put 1 Alt team in the top match(a match where both teams had someone who didn't send. Replace Byr17may/Catgamer since they were lower ranked than me and coffee
2. Then switch me and coffee with Abollo/Supertom so that the 2 seed faces a team who didn't send.

it's basically the same thing you done except me and coffee is there instead of a bye.

It just doesn't make sense to me how we could be outright deleted from the draw where in theory there is a chance we could win. it makes sense to switch so that the 2 seed gets the easier of the matches instead of a team who were Alternates but they shouldn't get an outright bye instead of a team where 1 team sent
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You can see the problem I had from the above then as like you say there is nothing about doubles matches so I would have been making up a rule.
Your step 1 suggestion is what I thought about doing but then I felt it would be giving the ALT team an advantage over those who committed on time by placing them against a team where only 1 member sent picks.
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You can see the problem I had from the above then as like you say there is nothing about doubles matches so I would have been making up a rule.
Your step 1 suggestion is what I thought about doing but then I felt it would be giving the ALT team an advantage over those who committed on time by placing them against a team where only 1 member sent picks.
yeah when I typed that I thought there were 2 alt teams, and I didn't look at the situation closely.

You should in fact switch so that the 2 seed has the advantage instead of the alt team, I just think that me and coffee should be agaianst the 2 seed.

it's still an advantage for the 2 seed, but at least it's not an outright bye
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That does make more sense so I have amended the draw in posts #5 and #80 and added you and ibreak4coffee vs coolfish1103/supertec.

Sorry for the confusion

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No worries, It probably won't matter anyway, being down 1 with the possibility of someone not sending tomorrow against the 2 seeds is basically a guarenteed loss anyway

I would have suggested such earlier but I wasn't around, I only just noticed it.
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If you put 156mphserve/Ibreakforcoffee in the draw, they should be in their original place in the draw, and abollo & me should face coolfish/supertec.. Right?!
Something is not logical at all.
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Just sent my picks.. to my partner too who would be my opponent if we both win the first round on singles
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