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Old 04-19-2013, 02:35 PM   #166
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the Canadian PM is spot on. If you only favour addressing the symptoms and not the causes, you're bound to live under constant attack.
He is not the PM and if we are lucky, after this gaffe, he might never be. We already know the cause of most terrorism is Islamist extremism. It looks like this is no different.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:35 PM   #167
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What clear political reasons? Why do they shout "Praise Allah" instead of "Praise Marx" or whomever represents the clearly political agenda that have?
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Religious beliefs are less important than supposed. For instance, the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist secular group, are the world's leader in suicide terrorism. The largest Islamic fundamentalist countries have not been responsible for any suicide terrorist attack. None have come from Iran or the Sudan. Until the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Iraq never had a suicide terrorist attack in all of its history. Between 1995 and 2004, the al Qaeda years, two-thirds of all attacks came from countries where the U.S. had troops stationed. Iraq's suicide missions today are carried out by Iraqi Sunnis and Saudis. Recall, 15 of the 19 participants in the 9/11 attacks were Saudis.

The clincher is this: the strongest motivation, according to Pape, is not religion but rather a desire "to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory the terrorists view as their homeland."
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Seriously, just listen to the rhetoric from the terrorists themselves. Everything they say and do is directed towards their faith, and yet their faith isn't a part of it?
you're confused because you have the wrong information and the wrong logical process. Thus it is not surprise that reach the wrong conclusions.

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"The central goal of the al-Qaida-inspired campaign, as its statements have regularly spelled out, is the withdrawal of US and other western forces from the Arab and Muslim world, an end to support for Israeli occupation of Palestinian land and a halt to support for oil-lubricated despots throughout the region. Those are also goals that unite an overwhelming majority of Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere and give al-Qaida and its allies the chance to recruit and operate - in a way that their extreme religious conservatism or dreams of restoring the medieval caliphate never would. As even Osama bin Laden asked in his US election-timed video: if it was western freedom al-Qaida hated, "Why do we not strike Sweden?"
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i suggest you to read more about your country's operations in the middle east and then come back and tell me it has nothing to with the terrorism that exists in the region.
News flash: nothing we do justifies murdering thousands of innocent civilians.
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The news should just say "a region of Russia" then we can go back to blaming everything on the Reds!
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I wondered why Berdych tanked his match and disappeared.
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you're confused because you have the wrong information and thus make the wrong conclusions.



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They do it in the name of Allah. The American military presence in the Middle East prior to 9/11 was not oppressing anyone. They are fucked up in the head because the US is on HOLY GROUND for them.
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Young men from all nations of the Middle East come together to fight the West under the name of Allah to get them out of the holy land. How is that not religion-based?
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These guys robbed a 7-11 while they are the most wanted men in the USA at the moment? There are rumors that the had planned to plant bombs at MIT for classes today last night.
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These guys robbed a 7-11 while they are the most wanted men in the USA at the moment? There are rumors that the had planned to plant bombs at MIT for classes today last night.
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some pretty accounts of your country's army operations against the chechens.
So?
Do you wanna hear the stories about Chechens cutting off heads of ethnic Russians (civilians, not only soldiers) and foreign reporters during the first Chechen war? And, FYI, Chechnya has been ruled by Chechens themselves (Kadyrov clan) for 13 years now

I don't see what that war has to do with two bastards who've been living in USA since early naughties killing 8 y.o. boy and two young women in Boston in April 2013.
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News flash: nothing we do justifies murdering thousands of innocent civilians.
never said it does.

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The American military presence in the Middle East prior to 9/11 was not oppressing anyone.
again, keep reading.
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it's not often that a Texan Republican makes sense, so treasure these words:


so why do they cry "Praise Allah?"

I still don't get it.
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never said it does.



again, keep reading.
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Young men from all nations of the Middle East come together to fight the West under the name of Allah to get them out of the holy land. How is that not religion-based?
See above
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He is not the PM and if we are lucky, after this gaffe, he might never be.
ah, my bad. fast-reading. should have known a guy like harper wouldn't be able to make so much sense, though.
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