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Old 03-29-2013, 09:55 PM   #136
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From the most objective perspective possible, that's correct.



He's not unwatchable. How can somebody who evidently is a tennis fan call Ferrer's game "unwatchable"? Such ludicrous hyperbole. Yes, his game can be unappealing and plain at times, there's no denying that, but "unwatchable"? Ferrer may be a shallow ball grinder, but he is capable of giving us neat winners, diverting rallies and entertaining matches most of the time. Perhaps today's encounter with Haas wasn't the most primitive example. If you seriously believe Ferrer is as unwatchable as you so mindlessly claim, then I question how much you value the sport.
His gameplan quickly dissolves when he faces Real Top 4. AO SF and Acapulco F showed that.
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And his "multiple" winners are just lay offs and aces, except for one good return winner.
False. He had seven aces and 26 winners on top of that, in contrast to Haas' one ace and 24 other winners.

Lay-offs are what is called building up a point, winners are winners, it's irrelevant how they get there.
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Haas ran out of gas, still a fantastic week for him
This.
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Rafa, 5th seed at the French? WTF? A travesty! Damn you daveed!
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From the most objective perspective possible, that's correct.



He's not unwatchable. How can somebody who evidently is a tennis fan call Ferrer's game "unwatchable"? Such ludicrous hyperbole. Yes, his game can be unappealing and plain at times, there's no denying that, but "unwatchable"? Ferrer may be a shallow ball grinder, but he is capable of giving us neat winners, diverting rallies and entertaining matches most of the time. Perhaps today's encounter with Haas wasn't the most primitive example. If you seriously believe Ferrer is as unwatchable as you so mindlessly claim, then I question how much you value the sport.
Yes, these obvious characteristics of Ferrer's game are what i call "unwatchable".

You can question anything you want (which is funny when talking about taste...), but fancy rhetoric doesn't make your argument any deeper, just another plain and shallow forum rant.
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Rafa, 5th seed at the French? WTF? A travesty! Damn you daveed!
is this settled now?
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The backhand shanks and deplorable serving were clearly due to fatigue partly caused by Ferrer's grinding and heavy forehand taking Haas out wide constantly. At 35 this amount of play is probably the ceiling for Haas especially when you take into account he made the QF in the doubles as well.
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He's not unwatchable. How can somebody who evidently is a tennis fan call Ferrer's game "unwatchable"? Such ludicrous hyperbole. Yes, his game can be unappealing and plain at times, there's no denying that, but "unwatchable"? Ferrer may be a shallow ball grinder, but he is capable of giving us neat winners, diverting rallies and entertaining matches most of the time. Perhaps today's encounter with Haas wasn't the most primitive example. If you seriously believe Ferrer is as unwatchable as you so mindlessly claim, then I question how much you value the sport.
you may be right, but those two don't belong in the same sentence
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False. He had seven aces and 26 winners on top of that, in contrast to Haas' one ace and 24 other winners.

Lay-offs are what is called building up a point, winners are winners, it's irrelevant how they get there.
That's where ppl who like shotmakers and real tennis players disagree with ppl who prefer marathon dirt ballers.

It is actually very relevant to me if you try to play tennis, improve your game going through risk and mistakes, to finally make it or not, compared to top spin moonball on the opponents' BH until they either kill you or kill themselves.

That's why Ferrer will always be a pigeon of the top guys and never will achieve anything in Slams.

The most annoying fact about his personality is that is enough for him and he wouldn't do anything different to ever try change it.
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I can appreciate Ferrer's game and what he's done to maximise his talents. The consistency of his groundstrokes is to be applauded. I prefer Haas' variety but I don't care enough either way to be bitter about it, I just want the most (possibly) entertaining final. Ferrer/Murray is like an even worse version of the Nole/Murray match up.
This isn't wrestling. It isn't predetermined. We can't always get the best match up possible. Sometimes we're treated, other times slightly underwhelmed. Tennis would be ponderous if we were constantly treated with great match-ups.

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I disagree. Most supported Haas because it was kinda a fairytale. A 35-year old guy beating Nole and reaching Masters SF. That being said you have to admit that Ferrer's game is boring and predictable.
Oh, is that right? Haas has been an internet darling long before his recent run at Miami. Certain imbeciles love to indulge in their infatuation with him because he brings an "old-school" game of tennis to the table, which is refreshing to see in comparison to today's apparent "dullness". Haas has a sublime all-court style, but certain, selective groups of deluded fanboys tend to believe he is a Messiah of sorts, saving tennis from its current rut. I am not pointing out anybody on this forum, but do some browsing on the internet and you'll see for yourself.

Yes, his run was endearing to see, I'm not denying that, but Ferrer clinches a victory today and all you see is exaggerated pap such as "tennis is dead". Nonsense.
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Your logic is flawed in this case.
In ANY case his logic is flawed.
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Doesn't matter whoever they bring Nadal will beat them! Trust in Toni to see him straight!
I have to agree with you on this one. If Nadal brigs his A game on RG courts it simply doesn't matter whether he's seeded 5 or 25. Master of clay will find his way.
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