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Old 04-17-2005, 10:03 PM   #16
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ce ne sont pas mes devoirs...mais j'ai un contrôle le jeudi prochain et j'ai une question
ce serai super si vous pourriez m'aider

pourquoi est-ce que je ne peux pas dire:
A Bruxelles, français est parlé.
et je doit dire:
A Bruxelles, on parle français.

Mais je peux dire:
Le voleur est arrêté. <--> (On arrête le voleur.)

j'éspère que vous comprenez ma question et pouvez m'aider.
En fait, plus qu'une question de grammaire, c'est une question de sens.

D'un point de vue strictement grammatical on peut dire aussi bien :

"le français est parlé à Bruxelles" et "on parle français à Bruxelles"

La seule différence est que la 1ère phrase est exprimée à la voix passive et la 2ème phrase est à la voix active.

Cependant en français la voix passive est de moins en moins utilisée et il est devenu plus commun et plus français de dire "on parle français à Bruxelles".

Avec le temps, la voix active est devenu la manière la plus répandue d'amener une action dans une phrase....En fait ce qui arrive à la langue française, c'est que le language parlé prend peu à peu le dessus sur le language écrit.

Autres exemples:
On mange des pates en Italie, on boit de la vodka en Russie, on voit des Zoltan en Belgique
On utilise la voix active, le language commun et direct pour parler d'une généralité "On".

Comme je le disais, C'est plus une question de feeling et de sens que de grammaire.

Idem pour ton 2ème exemple, on dit aussi bien:
"Le voleur est arrêté par Béa" et "Béa arrête le voleur"

La 1ère phrase est à la voix passive et la seconde à la voix active, plus commune.

Je ne sais pas si en allemand vous avez le choix entre plusieurs voix.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:04 PM   #17
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bravo bibir!!c ça je pense!

heureusement que t'es là lol
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Salut Richie!

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Autres exemples:
on voit des Zoltan en Belgique
Je proteste... Je suis unique Ton exemple ne vaut pas au pluriel

J'avais dit que Béa était notre spécialiste grammaire.
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Old 04-18-2005, 11:58 AM   #20
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merci beaucoup béa et tous ceux qui ont essayé de m'aider
je comprends cela maintenant
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Corinna, j'espère que tu t'en sors pour ton devoir
Je suis sur MSN aujourd'hui si tu as besoin d'aide fais moi signe...
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Appelle moi Béa!
très bien béa!
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Je proteste... Je suis unique Ton exemple ne vaut pas au pluriel
On voit des ZOLTAUX en Belgique, alors?

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Tu as bien répété ta leçon, c'est bien!
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En fait, tu es en train de nous dire que tu ne sais pas non plus c'est quoi la réponse?

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Non non. C'est un mot qui n'existe qu'au singulier. Il n'y a pas de pluriel. Je suis UNIQUE
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Non non. C'est un mot qui n'existe qu'au singulier. Il n'y a pas de pluriel. Je suis UNIQUE
Ca vaut peut être mieux pour tout le monde, vous imaginez si on avait deux comme ça par ici?
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awwww Nico
Ben quoi? Je n'ai dit que la vérité
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Ca vaut peut être mieux pour tout le monde, vous imaginez si on avait deux comme ça par ici?

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Ca vaut peut être mieux pour tout le monde, vous imaginez si on avait deux comme ça par ici?
Tu sais, Zoltan est un jeune très commun en fait...qui enfle...et qui enfle!!!...quand il est entouré de filles.

C'est un comportement très commun parmi les hommes.
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