[Chirag]

Originally Posted by Slasher1985

Now that we started talking about Indian Wells scenarios, Murray has a good shot at the number 2 spot because Federer got eliminated a little faster. All he has to do is beat Delpo and Nole, of course.

not as easy as it sounds

[decrepitude]

It sounds easy?

[RogerExpress]

Will Federer get a zero-pointer if he skips Miami? Because I read something about a rule for > 31 years and 600 matches that allows skip mandatory tournaments without giving a reason, but don't know if this also applies for the rankings

[Slasher1985]

Originally Posted by RogerExpress

Will Federer get a zero-pointer if he skips Miami? Because I read something about a rule for > 31 years and 600 matches that allows skip mandatory tournaments without give a reason, but don't know if this also applies for the rankings

He will. The rule applies only in terms of fines a player is charged by skipping mandatories.

[RogerExpress]

Originally Posted by Slasher1985

He will. The rule applies only in terms of fines a player is charged by skipping mandatories.

Thanks

[duong]

To get to number 2 after Indian Wells, Murray needs to reach the final in Indian Wells.

To keep or get the number 2 after Miami, Murray needs either :
- to win Miami
- to win Indian Wells and reach QF in Miami
- to play the final in both Indian Wells and Miami

Here's the situation for the rankings before Roland-Garros at the moment as some mentioned it :

Djokovic	10720
Murray	7390
Federer	7310
Ferrer	5780
Del Potro	3800
Berdych	3800
Nadal	3350
Tsonga	3210

Nadal is still 2430 points behind Ferrer, and well Nadal can win a lot before Roland-Garros but Ferrer is also allowed to get points during clay season

[Prodigy.]

Originally Posted by duong

To get to number 2 after Indian Wells, Murray needs to reach the final in Indian Wells.

To keep or get the number 2 after Miami, Murray needs either :
- to win Miami
- to win Indian Wells and reach QF in Miami
- to play the final in both Indian Wells and Miami

Here's the situation for the rankings before Roland-Garros at the moment as some mentioned it :

Djokovic	10720
Murray	7390
Federer	7310
Ferrer	5780
Del Potro	3800
Berdych	3800
Nadal	3350
Tsonga	3210

Nadal is still 2430 points behind Ferrer, and well Nadal can win a lot before Roland-Garros but Ferrer is also allowed to get points during clay season

So Murray will have to reach the final of Indian wells, after Indian wells is over?

[niff]

Originally Posted by Prodigy.

So Murray will have to reach the final of Indian wells, after Indian wells is over?

Comprehension fail.

[duong]

Originally Posted by Prodigy.

So Murray will have to reach the final of Indian wells, after Indian wells is over?

If Murray reaches Indian Wells final, he will get to number 2 next monday.

But if he hasn't won Indian Wells, and if he doesn't reach Miami final, he will lose it back after Miami.

[duong]

Now it's easier : for Murray to get the number 2 after Miami he needs to win Miami, that's all.

[Slasher1985]

But now we can talk about Delpo winning IW and reaching the number 2 spot in the race.

[Pratik]

^^ And a Berdych-Delpo final, with the winner getting the race #2

[duong]

Together with that number 2 in the Race, Nadal can also take the number 4 back from Ferrer in the Rankings if he wins Indian Wells.

But even if he did so, he would then have 1790 points more to take from Ferrer until Roma to get the number-4 seed in Roland-Garros. And he would have to do it not being seeded 1 or 2, which means with potentially facing Djokovic before the final.

[Slasher1985]

We can now see that only 285 points remain between Nadal and Ferrer. It's impressive how fast Nadal closed the gap, on the most unexpected moment.

[Pratik]

A lot is at stake, rankings wise, in the final.
If Nadal wins, he takes back the #4 in the rankings.
If Delpo wins, he reaches #6 in the rankings, his highest in a long time(since May 2010)
Also, the winner will become #2 in the race.