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Old 02-10-2013, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default Nadal and Lefties

nadal has an interesting deal with lefties:

record vs. lefties: 63-6 .913

that is an insanely good record vs. lefties! but why is it? wouldn't lefties be worse of a match up for him because he naturally hits to their forehand? it just doesn't make sense to me... is it due to the lack of high level lefties?

here's the list of lefties who have beaten him:

Verdasco
Melzer
Guccione (by retirement)
Lopez x2
Labadze (by withdrawal)
Muller

also, which lefty do you predict will beat nadal next?
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:33 PM   #2
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nadal has an interesting deal with lefties:

record vs. lefties: 63-6 .913

that is an insanely good record vs. lefties! but why is it? wouldn't lefties be worse of a match up for him because he naturally hits to their forehand? it just doesn't make sense to me... is it due to the lack of high level lefties?

here's the list of lefties who have beaten him:

Verdasco
Melzer
Guccione (by retirement)
Lopez x2
Labadze (by withdrawal)
Muller

also, which lefty do you predict will beat nadal next?
Yup spot on. Even those players you've mentioned who have beaten him are all considered mugs.
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Jarkko will beat him indoor
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If Federer was left handed, he would have 61 slams.
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He has an insane record against lefties because they're a lot less talented as players than him (in terms of achievements) and because he plays them on clay quite a bit.
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If Federer was left handed, he would have 61 slams.
If Nadal had Karlovic's serve he would have 61 slams maybe too.
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He has an insane record against lefties because they're a lot less talented as players than him (in terms of achievements) and because he plays them on clay quite a bit.
How are you less talented than someone in terms of achievements??
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he is just too good, being leftie would a problem for him is some top player would be leftie, but none. All lefties around are mugs.
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He has an insane record against lefties because they're a lot less talented as players than him (in terms of achievements) and because he plays them on clay quite a bit.
not having to play against himself helps a lot

seriously what is federer and djokovic's record against every left handed player except nadal? must be something like 100-0, right?
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not having to play against himself helps a lot

seriously what is federer and djokovic's record against every left handed player except nadal? must be something like 100-0, right?
Exactly, if Fed and Djoko don't have such a great record against lefties is because they have to face Nadal. If you take their record against lefties that aren't Nadal, it would be pretty much the same.
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not having to play against himself helps a lot

seriously what is federer and djokovic's record against every left handed player except nadal? must be something like 100-0, right?
Not as good as that. Djokovic is 52-26 against lefties, so 38-7 if we remove Nadal. Federer is better - 93-29 means 83-11 without Nadal.
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not having to play against himself helps a lot

seriously what is federer and djokovic's record against every left handed player except nadal? must be something like 100-0, right?
Federer lost to Melzer at MC-10. As I remember before that last time he lost to left handed player (except Rafa) was 8 years ago.

Don`t know about Novak.
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Default Re: Nadal and Lefties

With Nadal, we know more than twenty of those were versus Verdasco and Lopez combined. He's generally superior to them, and I think there are added mental forces at work there.

Others are right that Fed's numbers are skewed because of Nadal.


It's interesting, really, aren't Roddick and Hewitt also among the top five of the Open Era versus lefties?

Edit:

A quick search says so:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliabil...reer-List.aspx

Most other names are expected. Fed sits at #9. Murray, perhaps surprisingly, sits as high as #13. I don't see Djokovic on there.
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He has an insane record against lefties because they're a lot less talented as players than him (in terms of achievements) and because he plays them on clay quite a bit.
This. Easy obvious answer
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There just aren't many great lefties this generation
Best is Verdasco and that's a disaster match-up
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