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Old 02-10-2013, 08:51 PM   #31
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No, Borg after all only tried to win three slams. 11 from three opportunities each year is much better than 11 from four opportunities each year. Divide 11 by three and multiply by four and you have 14 2/3.
Doesn't matter though. If Borg didn't play the AO, Borg didn't play the AO. Should Connors then be elevated above Lendl and Agassi because he only played the AO twice in his career (winning once) and didn't play the FO for five years? Does Laver get speculated results added to his actual results because he didn't compete in the slams between '63 to '67? By your argument – If Nadal only played the FO and nothing else, does he get speculated results from the AO, Wimbledon and USO added to his results?
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:55 PM   #32
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tired of these 'who is better' threads
coz your boys always come of 2nd best?

btw 17 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:00 PM   #33
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coz your boys always come of 2nd best?

btw 17 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.
nope mickey, my boy is THE best at the moment
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:00 PM   #34
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Doesn't matter though. If Borg didn't play the AO, Borg didn't play the AO. Should Connors then be elevated above Lendl and Agassi because he only played the AO twice in his career (winning once) and didn't play the FO for five years? Does Laver get speculated results added to his actual results because he didn't compete in the slams between '63 to '67? By your argument – If Nadal only played the FO and nothing else, does he get speculated results from the AO, Wimbledon and USO added to his results?
No, it doesn't matter, it just means Borg dominated what he played more than Nadal has done.
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Nadal does not have a better record:

Each 11 GS.

Borg 2 y.e. indoor masters, but Nadal nil.

Nadal has a slightly better clay court and better hard court record.

Borg a much better grass court record and indoor record.

Borg won 64 titles. Nadal has 50 titles.

Nadal will retire ahead, but not ahead jet.
I think Toni means tennis records. What tennis records does Borg currently hold? The Roland Garros - Wimbledon double comes immediately to mind.
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I think Toni means tennis records. What tennis records does Borg currently hold? The Roland Garros - Wimbledon double comes immediately to mind.
One of the greatest records ever - winning % of matches played for whole career on all surfaces. Funny, but currently Nadal has better one, but it will be gone after his next loss.
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One of the greatest records ever - winning % of matches played for whole career on all surfaces. Funny, but currently Nadal has better one, but it will be gone after his next loss.

That %-record is something....on HC, Federer is #1 and Nadal is not top-10. On grass, Federer is #1 and Nadal #8. On clay, Nadal is #1 and Federer #9. Somehow this sums up to Nadal being #1 overall and Federer just #5.
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That %-record is something....on HC, Federer is #1 and Nadal is not top-10. On grass, Federer is #1 and Nadal #8. On clay, Nadal is #1 and Federer #9. Somehow this sums up to Nadal being #1 overall and Federer just #5.
Yes, I know. BTW, If Nadal really focuses on MM clay I can see him finishing his career with better stats than Borg in this department. It`s not very likely though.
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That %-record is something....on HC, Federer is #1 and Nadal is not top-10. On grass, Federer is #1 and Nadal #8. On clay, Nadal is #1 and Federer #9. Somehow this sums up to Nadal being #1 overall and Federer just #5.
Yep, that is quite strange.
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nope mickey, my boy is THE best at the moment
you got owned here Mickey......just a tad
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Doesn't matter though. If Borg didn't play the AO, Borg didn't play the AO. Should Connors then be elevated above Lendl and Agassi because he only played the AO twice in his career (winning once) and didn't play the FO for five years? Does Laver get speculated results added to his actual results because he didn't compete in the slams between '63 to '67? By your argument – If Nadal only played the FO and nothing else, does he get speculated results from the AO, Wimbledon and USO added to his results?
GREAT ACCURATE POST! The fact is that Borg never won a hard court slam. Did Borg never play the AO?
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:02 AM   #42
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Default Re: Toni: "In terms of records Nadal's better than Borg but I think Borg is better"

If slams were open laver wouldn't have won until 1964 anyway

Borg couldn't get it done on a US open clay court

And Nadal has never defended a non clay title

Non of these guys could ever compare to Sampras Federer
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Default Re: Toni: "In terms of records Nadal's better than Borg but I think Borg is better"

thanks god there wasnt Zeballos in Borg's era
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Default Re: Toni: "In terms of records Nadal's better than Borg but I think Borg is better"

Borg may have had a mild personality compared to the spoiled brat MugEnroe, but let's not forget this is the man who walked off the court before the ceremony and ditched the press conference at his last grand slam, the man who tried to sell off his Wimbledon trophies to support his drug habit, the man who couldn't stay retired because he was too much of a diva (something you only see now in the women's tour thank god). All the champions of that era: MugEnroe, Borg, and Connors were divas and clowns, Nadull would fit in quite well among their company. It is Federer, who has the class of Arthur Ashe, the talent of Laver, the power and mental strength of Borg who is beyond historical comparison. Tony is wise to preoccupy himself with Nadull's mediocre legacy.
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Default Re: Toni: "In terms of records Nadal's better than Borg but I think Borg is better"

I agree with him Borg is the better player. the fact that he has won FO-Wimble double is impressive specially in the time where the two were very contrasting in speed.
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