View Poll Results: WWW Rotterdam 500?
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Roger Federer
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63.04% |
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Juan Martin del Potro
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16.30% |
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Jo Wilfried Tsonga
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9.78% |
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Someone else (specify)
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10.87% |
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02-10-2013, 11:17 AM
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#166
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by ProdigyEng
What do you mean earned a cakedraw? Draws barring limitations of not facing other top seeds are all random. Maybe since Federer is god he should work his magic on a draw  |
As you said randomness leads to lucky or unlucky outcomes.
Of course in the long term supposedly it all evens out.
But the draws especially with nadal now in 5th and Ferrer in 4th the rankings may be the difference between winning or losing a tournament.
Look at the AO. Djokovic, apart from the Ferrer match, played average tennis. Had he drawn Murray in his half we could now have Roger or murray as the AO champions. |
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02-10-2013, 11:34 AM
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#167
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by duarte_a
Of course in the long term supposedly it all evens out.
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Not necessarily correct if it's truly random. |
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02-10-2013, 11:48 AM
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#168
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by Abel
Not necessarily correct if it's truly random.
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No, if it's truly random then it evens out. Meaning in the long run the 1 seed should get the #3 seed half of the time and the #4 seed half of the time for example.
Law of Large Numbers |
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02-10-2013, 11:55 AM
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#169
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
When was the last time players as Almagro,Tipsarevic,Flo Mayer,Stepanek were in Federer's draw in GS
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02-10-2013, 12:09 PM
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#170
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by duarte_a
No, if it's truly random then it evens out. Meaning in the long run the 1 seed should get the #3 seed half of the time and the #4 seed half of the time for example.
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We're not talking about large numbers at all, though. In theory you could get Fed getting the theoretical most difficult draw every year from 2003 to 2013 in the slams (for example). It's not a sample that's big enough to work with that theory. |
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02-10-2013, 12:12 PM
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#171
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by Abel
We're not talking about large numbers at all, though. In theory you could get Fed getting the theoretical most difficult draw every year from 2003 to 2013 in the slams (for example). It's not a sample that's big enough to work with that theory.
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Yes of course. 11*4=44, 44 is nothing. Was just talking theoretically.  |
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02-14-2013, 06:06 PM
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#172
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
Anyone knows what surface is used in Rotterdam? What type of HC?
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02-14-2013, 06:07 PM
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#173
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Anyone knows what surface is used in Rotterdam? What type of HC?
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02-14-2013, 06:10 PM
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by JanKowalski
Anyone knows what surface is used in Rotterdam? What type of HC?
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02-14-2013, 06:13 PM
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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02-14-2013, 06:15 PM
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#176
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
Lol feds draw is a joke now. Such a cake walk.
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02-14-2013, 06:28 PM
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by ProdigyEng
Lol feds draw is a joke now. Such a cake walk.
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It would be unfair if he always got hard ones. |
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02-14-2013, 06:48 PM
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by ProdigyEng
Lol feds draw is a joke now. Such a cake walk.
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How could his draw have been worse? Tsonga losing early is no reflection on the draw. |
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02-14-2013, 08:42 PM
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#179
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by Litotes
How could his draw have been worse? Tsonga losing early is no reflection on the draw.
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Besides, Simon is potentially not a much easier oponent for Fed than Tsonga. |
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02-14-2013, 08:45 PM
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#180
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Re: WWW Rotterdam 500: Federer, Del Potro and Tsonga Head the Field
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Originally Posted by JanKowalski
Besides, Simon is potentially not a much easier oponent for Fed than Tsonga.
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I know. I commented upon this after the draw, and said Tsonga might be a blessing in disguise as I expected him to beat Simon, a worse matchup. Unfortunately, he didn't oblige. |
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