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Old 02-09-2013, 01:02 PM   #31
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Tommy just edges Timmy by being number 2
I've seen good arguments in Haas's favour in this thread, but the "number 2" argument should not be given too much importance imo.

Haas at number 2 in 2002 had a similar number of ATP points as Henman at number 4 in 2004.

Actually Haas's highest number of points he got at number 3 in summer 2002 (3030 points), Henman at number 4 had his best of the 00s after the US Open 2004 (2825)
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:13 PM   #32
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I've seen good arguments in Haas's favour in this thread, but the "number 2" argument should not be given too much importance imo.

Haas at number 2 in 2002 had a similar number of ATP points as Henman at number 4 in 2004.

Actually Haas's highest number of points he got at number 3 in summer 2002 (3030 points), Henman at number 4 had his best of the 00s after the US Open 2004 (2825)
2 is still better than 4 and Haas missed Wimbledon that year to take are of his parents. Shortly after he had a career ruining injury. I see your point though.
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Ljubicic was 3 for like 2 weeks. He also had one of the easiest draws in history to reach his RG SF (his highest ranked opponent was Ramirez Hidalgo at 79)
Pretty much every single draw in every slam has been actually very weak since 2002.

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Probably Haas
Ljubicic really isn't same level as other two
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classy choker henman > haas.
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I've often wondered why Henman has two Indian Wells finals when his game was always better on faster surfaces and he generally had a poor record at the AO. Then again I'm still totally baffled by his RG SF.

Anyways Henman.
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If you're a good enough serve and volleyer, you can get results on any surface I guess. Edberg got a bunch of SFs in Miami and IW – winning one IW. Rafter also has a couple of SFs in Miami. Sampras has some IW and Miami titles.
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Haas really did underachive seeing these figures
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Haas really did underachive seeing these figures
That overrated big mouth done much better than he ever should have been allowed.
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That overrated big mouth done much better than he ever should have been allowed.
Still bitter about Haas speaking everyone's mind I see. You should be thankful about Haas' angelic nursing of your BF in 2006.
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That overrated big mouth done much better than he ever should have been allowed.
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the Henman tiger, he overachieved and i'd say Hassy underachieved

Ljubo is a scrub compared to them
Tommy underachieved? Tommy had 3 injuries with which many other players would have thrown in the towel already a long time ago. But Tommy fighted back every time and as far as I know he is the only player to have won the ATP-comeback award twice during his career.
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Haas > Tim > Ljubicic
this is my order as well.
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