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Old 02-08-2013, 02:05 PM   #16
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Default Re: Better career: Henman vs Haas vs Ljubicic

Henman probably beats Haas career wise, but it's close. Haas is/was the better player at his peak though, IMO.

Ljubicic's GS-results - one QF (AO) and one SF (RG) and other than that early exits – has got be one of the weakest results ever from a world nr 3. Especially considering he played nearly 50 GS tournaments. It must have been some kind of mental blockage.
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Haas > Tim > Ljubicic
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Default Re: Better career: Henman vs Haas vs Ljubicic

Tommy just edges Timmy by being number 2 and the silver medal, and I mean just edges.
And then comes Lubby. And quite far behind, too.
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Haas is still active player so he might win GS and there will be no discussion who is the best out of those 3
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Default Re: Better career: Henman vs Haas vs Ljubicic

Henman : he's quite near from Haas but one of the arguments is that he played a semifinal in Roland-Garros with his style, which is something I always appreciate, also made semifinals in Wimbledon and the US Open

Haas's semifinals look too concentrated on the Australian open even though he played 3 QFs in the US Open. And he never reached the QFs of Roland-Garros (was very near once )

Ljubivic didn't do well enough in slams.
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Tiger Tim obviously.
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Tiger Tim obviously.
Not obvious at all really and if you take circumstances into account Haas wins comfortably. Henman had a pretty cushy run with injuries in comparison.

Henman had better slam results but Haas has a silver medal. Win loss ratio is virtually identical. Haas has more titles but slightly worse MS1000 results. H2H is 3-2 for Haas. You'd have to say Henman's biggest advantage is the fact he was able to stay top 10 consistently.
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Henman was the most talent player, but he was also a massive choker, blowing countless chances to reach a Grand Slam Final.
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Not obvious at all really and if you take circumstances into account Haas wins comfortably. Henman had a pretty cushy run with injuries in comparison.

Henman had better slam results but Haas has a silver medal. Win loss ratio is virtually identical. Haas has more titles but slightly worse MS1000 results. H2H is 3-2 for Haas. You'd have to say Henman's biggest advantage is the fact he was able to stay top 10 consistently.
Yup Haas slightly ahead. Higher ranking, and TMS + Olympic silver is better than one TMS. That being said Henman's Paris TMS win and the quality of opposition he beat is arguably better than 95%+ of TMS title runs.
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Henman was the most talent player, but he was also a massive choker, blowing countless chances to reach a Grand Slam Final.
Both were naturally gifted but in terms of pure talent Haas was better. Henman's talent looks slightly better these days because literally no one can pull off his style of play anymore.

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Yup Haas slightly ahead. Higher ranking, and TMS + Olympic silver is better than one TMS. That being said Henman's Paris TMS win and the quality of opposition he beat is arguably better than 95%+ of TMS title runs.
Yep Henman's Paris win was insane beating Grosjean, Kuerten, Federer, Roddick, Pavel and probably one of the best of all time. Haas' was no slouch either though - Schalken, Arazi, Henman himself, peak Hewitt and Myrni.
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What made that Paris win more impressive was as an unseeded guy he only got in cause of a withdrawal, beat Denko, Grosjean, Guga, Federer, Roddick and then surprise finalist Pavel- rather fortunate that as Jiri Novak choked the semi and his counter-punching game gave Henman fits, especially in the Athens Olympics.
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anyone but Ljubicic, a complete mug in GS. Most inflated highest rank ever.
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