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Old 01-28-2013, 06:45 PM   #76
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Last year he faced Tsonga in Paris Tankers. Only time they faced at a Slam? Easy straight sets for Jo. He faced Berdych after Tomas played five sets two days in a row in both singles and doubles and had nothing left. He will not get those favorable circumstances this time around
If del potro is such a superior player to him why has he only won 3 of the last 13 sets they've played? What excuses do you have for him, he's been owned by ferrer in every type of competition and on every type of surface davis cup(clay),grand slam(grass), masters(outdoor hard), world tour finals(indoor hard)...

What favourable circumstances did he get in these meetings? Their last match he had just won paris and had 2 days to travel to london and adjust to the surface, i would say thats not very favourable at all.
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Fair enough. It will be interesting to see how it goes anyway.
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Nice to see David at #4 and good to see Nadal falling, even if it's due to injury.
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He gave his reason and it's not a bad one so it's fair enough indeed. There isn't a great deal of data about Ferrer-Berdych outside of clay or Ferrer-Tsonga anywhere so we'll have to see how that pans out over the next year or 2. The Ferrer-JMDP dynamic seems more robust though.
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He gave his reason and it's not a bad one so it's fair enough indeed. There isn't a great deal of data about Ferrer-Berdych outside of clay or Ferrer-Tsonga anywhere so we'll have to see how that pans out over the next year or 2. The Ferrer-JMDP dynamic seems more robust though.
If Ferrer loses to those guys it means he's getting too old, he's the superior player by far
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If del potro is such a superior player to him why has he only won 3 of the last 13 sets they've played? What excuses do you have for him, he's been owned by ferrer in every type of competition and on every type of surface davis cup(clay),grand slam(grass), masters(outdoor hard), world tour finals(indoor hard)...

What favourable circumstances did he get in these meetings? Their last match he had just won paris and had 2 days to travel to london and adjust to the surface, i would say thats not very favourable at all.
He matches up with Delpo, so what? JMDP is still the superior player with a Slam title despite being 7 years younger and having lost some of his peak years to surgery/attempting to make a successful comeback.

He will still beat Ferrer because unlike the latter he's a champion who eventually finds a way around his bad matchups (see his matchup history with Federer prior to US Open final or even this year for proof), unlike Ferrer who doesn't have the variety in his game or mental strength to overcome his bad matchups.

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I've always seen Ferrer as the real number 4 anyway. Now he is there I can't see him falling out of the top 4 for some time.
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Hahahahahahahahaha, "fair enough", right? It nearly made me lol in the middle of my class today....
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If Ferrer loses to those guys it means he's getting too old, he's the superior player by far
Don't be a tard. Why doesn't he have a slam and an olympic medal then?
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Don't be a tard. Why doesn't he have a slam and an olympic medal then?
Because he is mentally weak. - Oh wait, no, apparenty according to his fans he's a warrior who always gives everything on court and a mental giant so that can't be it.

Maybe he's had horrible injury problems that affected his progress during his prime years. - Wait, no, that was Del Potro.

Maybe he was just unlucky to face superior opponents in his runs and that's why he doesn't have those titles. - Wait, no, Del Potro faced the two greatest players of the XXI century to win his Slam (with Federer going for six in a row) and world #1 and #2 for his Olympic medal.


Maybe, just maybe, Del Potro is a far superior tennis player after all.
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Don't be a tard. Why doesn't he have a slam and an olympic medal then?
Del Potro > Ferrer career wise

Peak Del Potro > Peak Ferrer

Ferrer > Del Potro as a tennis player
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Del Potro > Ferrer career wise

Peak Del Potro > Peak Ferrer

Ferrer > Del Potro as a tennis player
That doesn't make sense at all
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That doesn't make sense at all
Del Potro reached his peak in only one season, Ferrer did that in 5+ seasons. Longevity is a highly relevant aspect in tennis.

2009 is the only year in which Del Potro showed a consistent higher level of tennis than Ferrer.
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Del Potro reached his peak in only one season, Ferrer did that in 5+ seasons. Longevity is a highly relevant aspect in tennis.

2009 is the only year in which Del Potro showed a consistent higher level of tennis than Ferrer.
Maybe that's because he is 24 and not 30?? And missed one whole year?? (plus another one coming back)

And Potro's 2008 was better than a lot of Ferrer's years in the tour.
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