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Old 01-28-2013, 10:04 PM   #31
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Apart from some very hot days, this slam offers almost perfect conditions. The only slam that offers close to perfect conditions!
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Historic prestige:

wimbledon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USO >>> RG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AO



Reality of today:

USO >>> AO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > irrelevant surface slams
USO is at the Oktoberfest Tennis Mixer level.
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USO is at the Oktoberfest Tennis Mixer level.
It's just cause delpo won it

They're all pretty equal these days I think. Back in Henman's prime, an AO or USO would not be accepted in the misguided British public's eyes, only Wimbledon.
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Australian open, personal opinions

Surface: Worst. I hate slow HC.
Crowd: Best. Shared perhaps with wimbledon.
Organisation & schedule: Best.
Watchability (for me): Worst, due to time zones.
Historic prestige: Lowest of the slams.
Weather: Best

All in all I like AO a lot. I personally rate it on the same level as RG and Wimby. USO is below.
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yup, just seen trolling (or, perhaps, genuine bitching?) about relevance of australian open in the final match thread. nice inducement to repeat why is AO the best GS in last 10+ years:

* best weather;
* best scheduling (theoretically, RG has better scheduling, but they usually *get screwed by dark and rain);
* best crowd;
* first slam to have retractable roof on main court;
* night matches under the lights. AO > RG
* most player-friendly grand slam, as contemporary champion and other players assert. more important - AO is the most regular and fair-play oriented grand slam, because of:

- no stupid sunday in the middle of tournament. "tradition"? what tradition? what is the point of christian tradition in sport event in antichrist country? particularly if it hurts another supposed local tradition more relevant in sport event - fair-play. as if regular rain isn't enough, stupid sunday often screws schedule of some players and puts them in unfavourable position. therefore AO is more regular tournament than wimbledon, hence, inevitably, AO > W.

- no stupid saturday at the end of tournament. stupid saturday forces finalists to play the most important matches in tournament in bo5 format in two consecutive days, and potentially puts second finalist in unfavourable position after eventual long sf match. how dumb is that? AO > USO.

thank you australian open, the best grand slam.

(some subjective reasons, not relevant for everyone, can be added too, like favourite surface or sight of sunshine and summer while freezing in the winter.)
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The only thing AO doesn't have is rich tradition. Regarding organization it wipes the floor with both RG and USO.
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The only thing AO doesn't have is rich tradition. Regarding organization it wipes the floor with both RG and USO.
list of AO winners looks very impressive: federer, sampras, nadal, agassi, lendl, etc. who is missing besides borg?
AO has some "fluke" winners, but so does wimbledon.
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Well how is the US Open the strongest when all the players are likely to be tired or carrying a injury ? It is as much a Slam as any other . Do you realise how much success at the French is purely down to strength and stamina ? It is hugely based on this . Wimbledon is largely down to attacking tennis and serve and volley . The players should be nice and fresh for the Aussie Open Although it,s original spot of being played in December may have been better !
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Australian open, personal opinions

Surface: Worst. I hate slow HC.
Crowd: Best. Shared perhaps with wimbledon.
Organisation & schedule: Best.
Watchability (for me): Worst, due to time zones.
Historic prestige: Lowest of the slams.
Weather: Best

All in all I like AO a lot. I personally rate it on the same level as RG and Wimby. USO is below.
This! My desire to visit the AO has really been fuelled by how cool the Aussies are as people and tennis fans but the surface is so shit it makes me cry when I think I started following the sport because of the wonderful AO matches of the early noughties.
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Lets make it a 250 event so we can diminish Novak's accomplishments.

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And make Basel a slam instead. That was Noserer extremists can boast that Pink Shoes has 20+ slams already.
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