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Old 01-28-2013, 03:14 PM   #76
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only one of them won USO under playable conditions, and you all don't need reminding who I'm talking about
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I think this thread should be titled "more difficult grand slam title" Both players were deserving and "legitimate" champions.
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lol @ Lenders trying to pretend Spudtro had a chance at winning RG. He must enjoy torpedoing his credibility in every thread he posts in.
Eh. He didn't face a BP for the first 3 sets against Federer and he owns Soderling. He played fantastic in his first GS final, unlike Soda who played badly in both, so yes, he had a very strong chance of wining RG.
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They were both legitimate, but Del Potro obviously had the tougher road. I'm not saying Berdych and Djokovic aren't great players, but Federer and Nadal both in their prime years are arguably the biggest iron wall to the Grand Slam gates there has ever been.
I agree with both points that Federer and Nadal are an iron wall in grand slams in their prime years and that both titles are legitimate however I disagree as to who had a more difficult road. In 2009, neither Federer nor Nadal were in their prime. Federer's prime years were 2004 - 2007. Nadal was injured for a couple of months. According to win percentages, 2009 was Federer's 6th best season. It was Nadal's equal 5th best.

Yes, Federer is a tough customer on fast hardcourts. But, Nadal on fast hardcourts during his tendinitis season after already having lost in lead up tournaments in Canada and Cincinnati? It was a greater feat for Murray the previous year when he beat a younger, healthy and ranked #1 Nadal.

Presently, Murray is in Roddick territory with more M1000 titles and more majors finals. Del Potro is in Thomas Johansson territory but with less M1000 titles.
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I agree with both points that Federer and Nadal are an iron wall in grand slams in their prime years and that both titles are legitimate however I disagree as to who had a more difficult road. In 2009, neither Federer nor Nadal were in their prime. Federer's prime years were 2004 - 2007. Nadal was injured for a couple of months. According to win percentages, 2009 was Federer's 6th best season. It was Nadal's equal 5th best.

Yes, Federer is a tough customer on fast hardcourts. But, Nadal on fast hardcourts during his tendinitis season after already having lost in lead up tournaments in Canada and Cincinnati? It was a greater feat for Murray the previous year when he beat a younger, healthy and ranked #1 Nadal.

Presently, Murray is in Roddick territory with more M1000 titles and more majors finals. Del Potro is in Thomas Johansson territory but with less M1000 titles.
Is that less as in ZERO.. Just sayin'.
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Murray, because he is the better and more consistent player.. Del Potro got a good matchup against Fed and won it one time.. but has been mighty quiet since then, Murray at least consistently makes semis and slam finals along with winning the occasional masters.
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They are both legitimate grand slam titles, but Delpo beat Rafa and Roger back to back, that's impressive.
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Delpo had to defeat Null and Federer at the age of 20... without wind

"If" one of these titles is more legitime than the other, that's Delpo's for sure.
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Del Po currently on his third consecutive final. Surely his slam is more legit and not a fluke.
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What is this?Amateur comedy night?It's GOATro and it's not even close.Denaying Muger one more Grand Slam,the guy should've been knighted by the queen.
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This thread is more legit than both slams combined. Both of them are so shit it's trivial to even bother deciding which stinks worse.
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Eh. He didn't face a BP for the first 3 sets against Federer and he owns Soderling. He played fantastic in his first GS final, unlike Soda who played badly in both, so yes, he had a very strong chance of wining RG.
You are talking, utter wank. Soderling defeated PRIME Nadal, ON CLAY, in FOUR SETS! He was playing the best tennis Phillipe Chatrie court had ever seen. Del Goatro played his final in the semi, no way he would have backed up. Even in 2009 USO he didn't play half as good in the final as the semi, Fed choked.
He started horribly and I am sure he would have started horribly in a hyperthetical final vs Soaderking also.

Even Fernando Gonzalez would have beaten Del Pot in that final.
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You also got to consider the fact that had Soderling not had Federer, going for his only chance at Career slam no less, across the net from him, who knows how well he may have played that day in 2009. You also have the court invader, it might have shaken del po up. So many variables. Soderling was in control of the 2009 WTF match and only just lost in the end. Soderling beat peak Nadal and a great Federer in 2009/2010, back to back RG finals, Del Po has never made back to back shit. I am more than confident Soderling would have beat Delp Po, 4 moderate sets in 2009 final.
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Please post more 2003. My nether regions always perk up when I see your name on the last post... Idemo mate..
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Delpo had to defeat Null and Federer at the age of 20... without wind

"If" one of these titles is more legitime than the other, that's Delpo's for sure.

Both wins were legitimate but Del Potro's win was more impressive for sure
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