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Old 01-26-2013, 08:12 PM   #1
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Will he surpass Marat if he wins tomorrow? And what he needs to achieve in order to surpass Hewitt?
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Safin? a FH? a BH? being handsome? charisma? born again
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Peak vs Peak, he'd destroy Hewitt.
I'm not sure. Hewitt in 2001-2002 was a beast. They play a similar style too, I think it would be close.
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Default Re: What Murray needs to surpass Safin and Hewitt?

I guess most MTFers would still consider Marat greater than Murray even if he wins more than 2 slams.
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I guess most MTFers would still consider Marat greater than Murray even if he wins more than 2 slams.
Typical MTF.

The way I see it is if Murray wins another slam and gets to number 1, he'll have surpassed both.
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Default Re: What Murray needs to surpass Safin and Hewitt?

Career-wise, he needs just one more Slam to surpass Safin:
-Both will have 2 Slams
-Murray's 6 (or more) finals > Safin's 4
-No world tour finals wins/Finals
-Murray is way more accomplished in Masters and smaller tournaments
-Olympic Champion
Safin has #1 ranking over him, which is clearly not enough.

Against Hewitt it will be a closer fight career-wise once Murray wins another Slam. Murray has more Slam finals and Olympic gold, but Hewitt is a 2 time Masters Cup champion, world #1, and has more titles (but most of them from small tourneys).

Doesn't matter though, because it's pretty NID that Murray will be better than both of them in a couple of years.
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I guess most MTFers would still consider Marat greater than Murray even if he wins more than 2 slams.
Pretty much. Federer has won 17 Slams and he's still not as great as Marat, so I don't fancy Murray's chances
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Typical MTF.

The way I see it is if Murray wins another slam and gets to number 1, he'll have surpassed both.
He will surpass an statistic, just that. To the eyes of most of tennis fans Murray will never be better than Marat IMO.
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He will surpass an statistic, just that. To the eyes of most of tennis fans Murray will never be better than Marat IMO.
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He will surpass an statistic, just that. To the eyes of most of tennis fans Murray will never be better than Marat IMO.
I hate saying Nadal is greater than Edberg myself, but results are results.

Anyway their #1 ranking means even a win tomorrow will keep him just behind them two, but will rocket him past Roddick, Bruguera and maybe Rafter.
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I guess most MTFers would still consider Marat greater than Murray even if he wins more than 2 slams.
Because he trashed Sampras at his backyard, beat peak Federer in a slam (not Olderer) he was #1, he was a very entertaining player and not a pusher, he was charismatic, etc.

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