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Old 01-30-2013, 06:58 PM   #31
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Besides, it's not true either that Ferrer never loses to lower-ranked players, is never tired ... it may be truer in recent years because he's reached a superior level (but the same can be said of Federer ) but it's not the case overall in his carreer : he has many losses to lower-ranked players and has indeed a very good H2H against top-players.
Of course it's not true. I also get really tired of the myth that he's a "machine", is "never tired", "never makes mistakes"... I mean he does not lose to lower ranked players very often, I believe, but he sometimes does.
I also have the impression that people are very biased against him, and they only see what they want to see. For instance, the commentators really annoy me with their constant comments about how "unusual" it is, whenever he makes a mistake or a DF.
Lately, as I've said before, I noticed that he was making a lot of DFs on hard, so many that it was probably a tactic (forcing his serve to make it more efficient, hoping that overall it would benefit him and compensate for the DFs). There really is nothing unusual about Ferrer double-faulting, yet whenever he does, the commentators never fail to exclaim "Wow! That's very unusual!!!"
Same thing when he starts making a lot of UEs, or when he goes to the net. It's not unusual at all, he tends to have off-moments when he plays badly, sometimes he clearly tired (but since they call him a machine, they can't acknowledge that, even when he says so himself)and lately he's been coming to the net far more than he used to.
But they just choose to keep their stereotypical vision of his tennis, by ignoring the changes or dismissing them as "unusual", and it pisses me off.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:15 PM   #32
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Berdych is a better player or at least equal . He won a Masters Title like Ferrer but also made a slam final. He just doesn't have as many MM titles.
Berdych plays the same amount of MM tournaments, but gets pounded out by clowns.

19 titles > 8 titles
6 H2H wins > 3 H2H wins
Ferrer > Berdych
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The Ferrer model =
I prefer watching Gulbis choking leads than watching this guy play.
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I'd venture to say the (real) Top 4 have some worries when facing the likes of Berdych, Del Potro and Tsonga however when they know they're playing Ferrer, they're pretty happy. I'd take the small chance that the aforementioned three have of playing 'lights out' tennis than Ferrer's 'roll over and lose' style to the Top 4 (during big tournaments). Whomever has Ferrer in their quarter during majors has the easier draw.
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I prefer watching Gulbis choking leads than watching this guy play.
This. Gulbis is a much better player than Ferrer anyway, tennis would win if he was bumped to #4 seed in the next tournaments. Here are a few lessons of how to play against Federer in general and Djokovic at Slams:



Shame there's no highlights of the 2008 Gulbis vs Djokovic Roland Garros QF on Youtube, but still that's what a match late in Slams is supposed to look like.
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I got this Djokovic match for you
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El Pendejo dice que el número uno no es suficiente pero el buitre de lenders, ferrer, puede ganar 7 tourneos sin mi permiso.
Mi boyfriend federer is goat, no?
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I got this Djokovic match for you
Big deal, Gulbis has also defeat Nole off Slams as well, and in straight sets. He also played one of the best matches of RG 2008 against Nole in the quarterfinals, while in five Slams meetings with Nole only once has Ferrer left the court without getting a bagel or a breadstick and he lost said match 6-4 6-4 6-3.

There's no doubt Gulbis would provide far more adequate competition to Federer and/or Nole in the late stages of big events than Ferrer.
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Berdych plays the same amount of MM tournaments, but gets pounded out by clowns.

19 titles > 8 titles
6 H2H wins > 3 H2H wins
Ferrer > Berdych
Reaching a Wimbledon final more than makes up for a few less MM tournament wins. As for the H2H thing, not relevant. I didn't think Nadal was seen a better player than Federer just because he leads the H2H .
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