[Dublin Mick]

Thread title curse is a cert to kick in here.

I really dont like Murray at all and I have always been a Federer fan but business is business and tbh I am surprised that Federer has even gotten this far, Murray on the other hand hasnt even dropped a set. Now I am not saying Murray 3-0 but Murray is a banker imo.
I have a decent sized cash bet on him but I also have a few quid in my Betfair account that I will use in play, it would suit me if Fed breaks Murray first.
In either case this is a no brainer for me, lumping on Andy with confidence.

Of course I have been wrong before bigtime ie. It took me a long time to recover from Nadal beating Fed in a Wimbeldon final and then same again in Australia but my confidence is high here.

Do it Murray ya Jock Cock.

[Dublin Mick]

Originally Posted by Julio

The key of Federer's game is his serve and nothing more. Wait and see.

Really? Lol

I dont think you become the greatest tennis player ever based on your serve and nothing more, does he just serve constant aces and nothing else?

[Time2burn]

i dont know why murray is fav 50/50 match imo muzza has been serving like crap so im not touching this match only banker is joker taking the title hes been serving great and was clutch big time holding well in the 5th against stan who was playing one of the best matches ever fed probably has a better chance against joker but i cant see him breaking joker twice a set he might get to one tb but joker will crush him

[Dublin Mick]

Thats ok that Murray is serving crap, he still hasnt dropped a set yet and will have too much firepower and over all fitness for a has been Federer.

[Bleeth]

Kokkinakis over Coric @1.45 (3 Units)

GL

[mebit]

People have said everything there is to be said. But I have come to learn from experience that the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums and it will always take a whole lot of wisdom to see the traits. I have also come to realize that the eventual loser is always the one that has the most persuading stats to lure you into a false sense of security. History will always repeat itself. You just have to be lucky enough to recognize the traits of the repeat. Here is strictly why there can be only one winner.

1. The title thread - The title was put unaware of the jinx lying in wait. The jinx is governed by a dominant spirit of deception that makes you do or believe things that you ordinarily will not believe.

2. The false assumption that this is a clear opportunity for revenge for Federer from the Olympic walloping.

3. A false belief that Murray has only played softies in the preceding rounds, and that the real challenge starts here. Big lie from hell! Murray is now that good and those beatings were authentic to the core.

4.Murray has been making a lot of errors even with these low quality opposition therefore he has no chance.
5. Murray has never played at night before etc. In fact here lies the biggest reason why I believe its a Murray gala.

In summary Murray with Murray finally getting the monkey off his back, the limitation barrier has come tumbling down and a new number is in the process of being created. Here is the misery for Federer backers! You might want to be smart by playing "overs" instead. hmmmmmm! There will be no place to hide as I predict a one sided fiasco. Someone here mentioned the fact that Federer's old style tennis is gone for good and cannot fit into todays dynamism. I need to draw you to the intricate characteristic of the Federer you may end up backing. That he is really a fading concept in the current game of tennis. No longer can he win games solely based on skill; todays battle now requires a mixture of grit, grind and tenacity. Federer lacks all three at this fleeting stage of his career.

You only need to look back to the tail end of last year for the final clue. Del potro finally found the key to beating Fed and almost now seems to do it at will. Federer comes out early bouncing and sticking out the jab, then fades slowly as the body blows start to reign in. If you forget Tsonga who might never find the key, or who found the key and lost it, I really cannot see Fed coming out on top in a match designed to launch the official arrival of the Scotish Matador!!!

[Prodigy.]

Originally Posted by Shandy Murray

Ugly?

Ignore the troll.

[Time2burn]

best bet is to not bet or bet live and wait for the final i give the slight edge to fed but hope murray will win so i can unload on joker andy doesnt have the game like stan to hurt joker and his serve hasnt been great while jokers serve has been like 2011

[bad gambler]

Originally Posted by Julio

The key of Federer's game is his serve and nothing more. Wait and see.

I think it is concerning that Tsonga could break the Fed serve 5 times. What is one of the best returner of serves on tour able to do tonight

[Julio]

Originally Posted by Dublin Mick

Really? Lol

I dont think you become the greatest tennis player ever based on your serve and nothing more, does he just serve constant aces and nothing else?

It's not about kicking aces at 250 km/h ! Just zones that Fed is able to find on serve : all his game plan is based on. Then he can manage to take advantage with his forehand. If Roger puts more than 65% first serve in, he will win. If not, he will be killed.

[Hårdkål]

Originally Posted by Time2burn

i dont know why murray is fav 50/50 match imo muzza has been serving like crap so im not touching this match only banker is joker taking the title hes been serving great and was clutch big time holding well in the 5th against stan who was playing one of the best matches ever fed probably has a better chance against joker but i cant see him breaking joker twice a set he might get to one tb but joker will crush him

Because he has a greater probability of winning?

Originally Posted by mebit

People have said everything there is to be said. But I have come to learn from experience that the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums and it will always take a whole lot of wisdom to see the traits.

I have also come to realize that the eventual loser is always the one that has the most persuading stats to lure you into a false sense of security.

History will always repeat itself. You just have to be lucky enough to recognize the traits of the repeat. Here is strictly why there can be only one winner.

...[mostly random BS]

If there are outcomes (winners) A and B of a match, and there are at least two forum comments suggesting A and B will win respectively, then yes – it's no wonder "the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums".

If you've come to such grand, transcendal realizations you should open up an account with Pinnacle Sports and become a billionaire!

The strangest thing. I always imaged there could be a different number of winners than one. Well, now I know – thanks!

How wise you are.

Originally Posted by ProdigyEng

Ignore the troll.

Perhaps he finds Murray ugly. I can see how Murray fanboys are offended.

It's trolling nonetheless, though...

Originally Posted by Time2burn

best bet is to not bet or bet live and wait for the final i give the slight edge to fed but hope murray will win so i can unload on joker andy doesnt have the game like stan to hurt joker and his serve hasnt been great while jokers serve has been like 2011

Truth be told, you're a bad gambler if you give Federer the edge and still do not bet at the current odds.

Then again, few would agree such is the case.

Originally Posted by bad gambler

I think it is concerning that Tsonga could break the Fed serve 5 times. What is one of the best returner of serves on tour able to do tonight

Indeed.

[Hola Mr. SK]

This thread actually makes the match fun to watch. See who of you guys are right. Good luck fellas.

[Time2burn]

i said i give the slight edge to fed why would i bet if im not confident? I rather just watch to see who is playing well then bet, you dont have to bet every game plus im going to go big on joker in the final anyways

[Dublin Mick]

Whats your version of big T2B?

I got my cash bet on Murray here but was hoping to put more on in play but the 1.45 on offer on Betfair is not doing it for me, need Fed to break back or even better win this opeing set so as I can pile into Murray even more.

[Time2burn]

6.5k all i have right now if i can get more money from li na winning il put that too il be really fukd up if i lose but if i win im not betting 4 a while hope its good odds