[Slade]

Just blame Almugro for choking the QF, he should have been in this match instead.

Truth is Ferrer's form was bad for most of the tournament. He went in this match with the wrong strategy as well which added more humiliation to the scoreline

[Han Solo]

Originally Posted by Slade

Just blame Almugro for choking the QF, he should have been in this match instead.

Truth is Ferrer's form was bad for most of the tournament. He went in this match with the wrong strategy as well which added more humiliation to the scoreline

You discerned a strategy there? What was it, other than serve poorly and watch another backhand down the line go past after a short rally?

[rocketassist]

Originally Posted by MIMIC

Saying that Federer has a "gold medal" is just like saying that Petzschner has a slam.

IT'S IN DOUBLES!

It's completely different in the Olympics to slams- all golds are worth equal value and all count towards a nation's totals. Therefore Federer is an Olympic champion, as is Wawrinka.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

You discerned a strategy there? What was it, other than serve poorly and watch another backhand down the line go past after a short rally?

He was trying to out hit Djokovic which explains his UEs, went for too much too often

Not that it matters, he couldn't win this match

[MIMIC]

Originally Posted by rocketassist

It's completely different in the Olympics to slams- all golds are worth equal value and all count towards a nation's totals. Therefore Federer is an Olympic champion, as is Wawrinka.

So Federer got the same amount of points in 2008 as Murray got last year?

[rocketassist]

Originally Posted by MIMIC

So Federer got the same amount of points in 2008 as Murray got last year?

The Olympics isn't about ranking points- it's about winning golds for your country and its team. Switzerland's doubles gold in 08 wasn't worth 0.5 golds just cause it was the doubles, it counted the way Nadal's did for Spain towards the national total.

But obviously if we're discussing his singles career then yes, he hasn't won the gold in that. But he is an Olympic champ.

[MIMIC]

Originally Posted by rocketassist

The Olympics isn't about ranking points- it's about winning golds for your country and its team. Switzerland's doubles gold in 08 wasn't worth 0.5 golds just cause it was the doubles, it counted the way Nadal's did for Spain towards the national total.

But obviously if we're discussing his singles career then yes, he hasn't won the gold in that. But he is an Olympic champ.

You could make the same argument about slams, considering how heavily invested the UK was in Murray winning one. It's as if he won one for the UK instead of for himself.

But that's beside the point: a gold medal IS worth ranking points, thus making its value relative.

[Yolita]

Originally Posted by Zenjo

Djokovic's performance level was reminiscent of Federer at his peak, just annihilating a top player like that. There are only 2 players in the draw who could even give him a game when he plays like that.

Ferrer just picked up where he left off in the QF, on terrible form. He was at his worst and Djokovic was at his best. Let's not forget that Ferrer has a 5-10 record vs Djokovic, their matches aren't usually 1 way traffic.

Yes, but let's put those 5 wins in context:

1. Romania 2004, on clay, Novak was 17 years old, ranked 272 and he still took a set off Ferrer
2. Montecarlo 2007. Straight sets for David. Good win
3. Masters Cup, Beijing: Nole was exhausted after having his breakthrough season, he had entered too many tornaments not expecting to go so deep in so many, so he didn't win a single RR match at the end of the season, although he had clinched the #3.
4. 2009, Davis Cup, Clay, Spain. Ferrer winning a Davis Cp match at home, not really a surprise.
5. WTF, London, 2011. Again, Nole exhausted after his fabulous 2011 season. Nole's end of the season was less than perfect, remember?

So yes, Ferru has beaten Nole 5 times. All credit to him, but one shouldn't give all of those wins the same weight when trying to make a fair assessment of how these 2 players stand with respect to each other.

It's a question of matchup: I think David has a real problem against the top players. I think of the big four, he would rather face Murray before anybody else. He has a better chance.
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[Mark Lenders]

Originally Posted by Certinfy

Someone should tell him he's overranked, might actually help him.

This.

He's just not good enough to have these delusions of grandeur.

[heya]

Fernando Gonzalez was gutsy in '04 Olympics singles and doubles.
Federer didn't like Wawrinka in Davis Cup ties so much, despite the Olympics.

[Nole Rules]

Originally Posted by heya

Fernando Gonzalez was gutsy in '04 Olympics singles and doubles.
Federer didn't like Wawrinka in Davis Cup ties so much, despite the Olympics.

[Topspindoctor]

After this match Mugray and Olderer should just fly back to Scotland and Switzerland, the humiliation simply isn't worth it. Pusher or Old Man/Pink Shoes, it matters not. The humiliation delivered to either of them will be on epic level. Maybe they should team up and play as doubles team, maybe they'll take this Nole to one tie break

[heya]

LOLOLOL fEDPINK says the media abuses him. OMG

[stewietennis]

What a waste of a semi final. I felt sorry for the people who bought tickets to that "match". I felt sorry for Djokovic having to carry the whole match – entertainment wise. The semis last year? THOSE were actual semi finals matches – even the four setter from Nadal/Federer. Last night's match isn't even good enough to be called a first round match. Almagro vs Djokovic would have been a more entertaining match,