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Old 11-27-2004, 09:37 PM   #1
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For the backswing of a two-handed backhand, should my arm (elbow) be straight and extended (or "stiff," like Roddick's or Moya's backhands) or should my elbow be bent? One might be better than the other for various purposes, and I'd like to know so I can start using the more efficient backhand.
Also, what is the optimal grip combination for a two-handed backhand?
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When I first read this, I thought it was to do with double handed tennis, so I typed a good response... before realising! However, you do not want a stiff arm for your double handed backhand, instead bent, Roddick and Graydon Oliver etc just are set in their ways... I guess :S? It probably depends a lot on what feels comfortable, but if you can bend it, go for it. More angles, flexibility and you can generate power. The optimal grip combo for two handed backhand (bent arm) is single-handed backhand grip (eastern backhand) with the other hand added on top and touching the lower hand. For right-handed players the left hand (top hand) grips the racket with a Western forhand grip for a left-handed player.
If you choose the stiff arm, I would expect both grips to be fairly flat... That's why it's easier for you to bend.
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:59 PM   #3
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Bent, you can generate your own power then with the added benefit of control. Otherwise, you cant control the ball.
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well, both roddick and moya are not known for their backhands. i would recommend a continental grip for you're two hander and bend the elbow.
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For the backswing of a two-handed backhand, should my arm (elbow) be straight and extended (or "stiff," like Roddick's or Moya's backhands) or should my elbow be bent? One might be better than the other for various purposes, and I'd like to know so I can start using the more efficient backhand.
Also, what is the optimal grip combination for a two-handed backhand?
Thanks.
Well, I wouldn't follow by Moya's or Roddick's example, as neither has a very effective backhand. By having you're elbows bent, it allows you more angles and greater power. I would do this, but I am no expert on two handed backhands, as I have always had a single handed backhand myself.
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Thank you for your replies everyone. What I have been doing with my backhand are pretty close to what you have suggested. No I'm not religious or anything, just kind of thought the name was cool. Thanks again.
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Another related question: I read somewhere that Agassi's left hand is somewhere in the range of Eastern to Semi-western for his backhand. Is this also recommended?
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Probably not recommended. Agassi only uses it because he can! Obviously, this is not a skill the average club player possesses. Very interesting information, but this is what makes him a pro. He has the finest backhand return in the game. (I now don't bother saying 2nd best, in my eyes Federer does not exist. The winner of an event is the player that loses to him in the final)
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Agassi's grip is that way because his stroke is so compact, that in order to generate a circle momentum in such a short swing, he brings his left hand higher up. It makes it smoother to swing as such, because the racquet remains parallel, but the wrist and roll over with ease. However, hitting a backhand like this is very tough, and requires VERY good footwork and trunk rotation (Do those abs!) in order to generate power because the left palm no longer rests on the flat side.
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Oh I see. Then does a semi-western for the left hand work?
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Yes, with a lot of conditioning and training, it is actually a more effective shot, but much more difficult to master. I don't recommend trying it unless you have a supervised conditioning regimin for your torso and upper body so that you can generate your power.
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For the backswing of a two-handed backhand, should my arm (elbow) be straight and extended (or "stiff," like Roddick's or Moya's backhands) or should my elbow be bent? One might be better than the other for various purposes, and I'd like to know so I can start using the more efficient backhand.
Also, what is the optimal grip combination for a two-handed backhand?
Thanks.
Don't u dare to look at these two guys' two-handed-backhands It's like trying to copy Dementieva's serve, Agassi volleys or JesusFed nose
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Don't u dare to look at these two guys' two-handed-backhands It's like trying to copy Dementieva's serve, Agassi volleys or JesusFed nose
Do you prefer Pete's running forehand or Rogers' runny nose?
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