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Old 01-21-2013, 05:07 AM   #16
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I really don't get why people think clay is Ferrer's best surface. It's pretty clearly hard now. He might look better on clay because other players suck there (Tsonga, Murray) but I'm pretty sure he's a better hard court player the last couple years.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:51 AM   #17
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Lol, it was Nadal influence who pushed Brazil to be a 500 event.
get a clue. Rio bought the date from Memphis.

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Thanks Looner for the post. This is great that ATP is not moving the South American Swing from February and and leaving 4 tournaments down under here with an ATP 500 in Rio de Janeiro . I guess I should read that Santiago, Buenos Aires and Bogota will remain on the schedule and that Sao Paulo will disappear.

Finally Acapulco moved to North American swing which seems to be more accurate due to geographical reasons.
São Paulo doesn't disappear. It will be Vina del Mar/Santiago - BsAs - Rio - São Paulo. Bogotá is strangely placed alongside Hamburg, and on hard court.
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Finally those morons do something right. Guess the Paris organizers weren't happy with the withdrawals/tanks from top players.

Acapulco from clay to hard... poor Ferrer.
It's great for Ferrer; means he won't find Nadal there. He'll be fine on hard, just like he is in Valencia, Tokyo, etc.
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Wonder who's crying the most over the fact Acapulco has been changed to HC
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Wonder who's crying the most over the fact Acapulco has been changed to HC
probably some lower ranked clay courters who counted on it for points and money. Even if Ferrer and Almagro were going to end up in the final every year, ranking points and money for SF and QF rounds is not bad
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get a clue. Rio bought the date from Memphis.



São Paulo doesn't disappear. It will be Vina del Mar/Santiago - BsAs - Rio - São Paulo. Bogotá is strangely placed alongside Hamburg, and on hard court.
You get a clue, Nadal has been talking about that event for the better part of last year. The only reason why they got the 500 event is because of Nadal, because he vowed to play in it. He has been promoting it.
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Where's the promised longer grass season?
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2015, people, 2015...
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It's good that they gave up on that post-WTF South American swing crap. It was instating non-mandatory ATP 500 events that were screwing up with ma jig, if ya know what I mean...
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overall good changes
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Great, more clay vulturing in the future. It's Ferrer, Almagro, and Monaco's dream schedule.

By changing Acapulco to HC? Yeah, I'm sure these player will love that.
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By changing Acapulco to HC? Yeah, I'm sure these player will love that.
Ferrer is good on any surface anyway. So, there is one name mentioned by MaratandMilos that should not have been there.
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Ferrer is good on any surface anyway. So, there is one name mentioned by MaratandMilos that should not have been there.

Yes, that is true.
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You get a clue, Nadal has been talking about that event for the better part of last year. The only reason why they got the 500 event is because of Nadal, because he vowed to play in it. He has been promoting it.
They got the 500 event because there's a Brazilian billionaire behind it, in a joint-venture with IMG. Probably also the reason why Nadal was talking about it (and won't be anymore). Correlation is not causation.
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Federer was already robbed of his 6th year as year end #1 by the calendar last year and robbed of a WTF. Of course they change it now, roger has almost no chance at that record.
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