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01-18-2013, 01:01 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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How about the "egg", Novak?
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Eggcelent point there Durrrr!
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01-18-2013, 01:03 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
Aaand my comment was deleted...
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01-18-2013, 01:23 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
what the fuck do you on MTF know about doping huh?You know it is widespread in tennis?You know shit you can only speculate.....I was on juice for years and I will use that stuff again in a few months and trust me it cant turn a mediocre player into a Grand Slam champion.......Armstrong was better than everyone with or without it.....Like Barry Bonds.........sure they shouldn't have used it but still steroids enhance your performance they dont create it out of nothing
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01-18-2013, 01:34 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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what the fuck do you on MTF know about doping huh?You know it is widespread in tennis?You know shit you can only speculate.....I was on juice for years and I will use that stuff again in a few months and trust me it cant turn a mediocre player into a Grand Slam champion.......Armstrong was better than everyone with or without it.....Like Barry Bonds.........sure they shouldn't have used it but still steroids enhance your performance they dont create it out of nothing
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01-18-2013, 01:39 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
Good interview. I don't think Djokovic is doping. And I like what he said about Armstrong. Absolute disgrace that guy. One of the heros of 'Clay Death' of course. I saw an interview with Dennis Miller where he says Armstrong bullied people into not saying anything about his doping by threatening them. Sounds a lot like that bully Clay Death and of course we all know who else that poster worshiped. Connect the dots.
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01-18-2013, 01:41 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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Originally Posted by Saberq
what the fuck do you on MTF know about doping huh?You know it is widespread in tennis?You know shit you can only speculate.....I was on juice for years and I will use that stuff again in a few months and trust me it cant turn a mediocre player into a Grand Slam champion.......Armstrong was better than everyone with or without it.....Like Barry Bonds.........sure they shouldn't have used it but still steroids enhance your performance they dont create it out of nothing
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Lol you don't know shit for someone who says they have been on the juice before. Guess you used shitty steroids. It makes a huge difference and gives and unfair advantage over opponents. End of story.
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01-18-2013, 01:41 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
Djokovic is clearly trying to paint tennis in a good light. Nothing to see here, just move on.
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01-18-2013, 01:43 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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Lol you don't know shit for someone who says they have been on the juice before. Guess you used shitty steroids. It makes a huge difference and gives and unfair advantage over opponents. End of story.
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it makes a difference yes but not as much as you think
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01-18-2013, 01:46 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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Djokovic is clearly trying to paint tennis in a good light. Nothing to see here, just move on.
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+1
the only reasonable post in this thread
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01-18-2013, 01:51 PM
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it makes a difference yes but not as much as you think
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As much as I think? I think it makes enough difference to give you an unfair advantage over your opponent. And that is a fact.
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01-18-2013, 01:52 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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As much as I think? I think it makes enough difference to give you an unfair advantage over your opponent. And that is a fact.
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well yes........
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01-18-2013, 02:48 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
I'd say it makes a fair bit of difference depending on the potential of your body. See the movie Limitless for a very good example.
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01-18-2013, 02:59 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
 @ another pointless doping debate.
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01-18-2013, 03:16 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
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I'd say it makes a fair bit of difference depending on the potential of your body. See the movie Limitless for a very good example.
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Limitless has very little with body EP, it's all about mind EP.
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01-18-2013, 03:39 PM
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Re: Djokovic on Armstrong, cycling, doping etc
Saying EPO and blood doping gives no huge effect is //("(/!/(" retarded.
Best example I've seen is in cross country skiing where the finish team shot up EPO and blood transfusions doing a world cup and all results sky rocketed. Even have the actual blood values but then it gets too nerdy here but trust me the effect was sick. Also a spanish athlete (Mühlegg) did it during Olympics in Salt Lake City (that was on high altitude) and no other skiier, not even the world's very best and technically superior, stood a chance.
After those debacles they ruled that red blood cell count has to be measured and any skiier above a certain value was prohibited from taking part in competition. This affected those who had high blood cell counts genitically but what can you do.
Obviously it's more straightforward in sports like long distance running, cross-country skiing or cycling where they compete over long distances.
In tennis you need the skill to actually stay in rallies to benefit much from blood doping. But those who are defensivly gifted, like say Nadal, Ferrer etc. would benefit greatly from blood doping
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