If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Roger? - MensTennisForums.com

MensTennisForums.com

MenstennisForums.com is the premier Men's Tennis forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!

Reply

Old 01-24-2013, 06:15 AM   #1
country flag sportstennis
Registered User
 
sportstennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 641
sportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond repute
Default If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Roger?

I am tired with the excuse for insulting Roger of Roger Federer anti.
no competition and weak era. Is it a fact?


OK, Roger does not exist as assumption. Then, other great players exist in that time. Could they continue winning like Roger Federer?

let me know.


And please also give me this explanation. Davydenko > Nadal. Roddick > Djokovic.



.
__________________
Nadal "Sampras, Ivanisevic match. or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable. It's not really tennis. it is a few swings of the racquet. For me in the past it was just serve. serve" smug arrogant.

clay excluded. successive win 0.  If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay. power of defense and muscles. boring ugly. All the surface is slow now.

fake time-out. cheat. gamesmanship. too noisy annoying always. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to schedule. selfish two-year ranking. bump to player. ugly protest. always exaggerated appeal of self condition. etc. overrated by fanatic arrogant blind fan

Last edited by sportstennis : 01-24-2013 at 06:27 AM.
sportstennis is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 01-24-2013, 06:17 AM   #2
country flag BackhandDTL
Registered User
 
BackhandDTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 23
Posts: 3,232
BackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Other than Nadal on clay, no.
BackhandDTL is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:21 AM   #3
country flag jojoh07
Registered User
 
jojoh07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 189
jojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond reputejojoh07 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by BackhandDTL View Post
Other than Nadal on clay, no.
this is correct
jojoh07 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:23 AM   #4
country flag sportstennis
Registered User
 
sportstennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 641
sportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by BackhandDTL View Post
Other than Nadal on clay, no.

I dislike Nadal. But, Borg and Nadal are greatest clay court player. fact.


thanks for the comment.
__________________
Nadal "Sampras, Ivanisevic match. or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable. It's not really tennis. it is a few swings of the racquet. For me in the past it was just serve. serve" smug arrogant.

clay excluded. successive win 0.  If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay. power of defense and muscles. boring ugly. All the surface is slow now.

fake time-out. cheat. gamesmanship. too noisy annoying always. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to schedule. selfish two-year ranking. bump to player. ugly protest. always exaggerated appeal of self condition. etc. overrated by fanatic arrogant blind fan

Last edited by sportstennis : 01-24-2013 at 06:32 AM.
sportstennis is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:24 AM   #5
country flag EliSter
Registered User
 
EliSter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: everywhere...
Age: 25
Posts: 5,837
EliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Prime No2e would get atleast 10 slams in 2004-2007 period.
__________________
Quote:
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.

BigJohn
EliSter is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:25 AM   #6
country flag sportstennis
Registered User
 
sportstennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 641
sportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Davydenko > Nadal.

Roddick > Djokovic.


My explanation. It is from Roddick's decline that Djokovic began to win Roddick.


Djokovic or Nadal are blessed with the too much slow surface age. If they exist in the quick time of grass or hard court, there are few chances for them to win the victory.



What do you think?
__________________
Nadal "Sampras, Ivanisevic match. or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable. It's not really tennis. it is a few swings of the racquet. For me in the past it was just serve. serve" smug arrogant.

clay excluded. successive win 0.  If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay. power of defense and muscles. boring ugly. All the surface is slow now.

fake time-out. cheat. gamesmanship. too noisy annoying always. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to schedule. selfish two-year ranking. bump to player. ugly protest. always exaggerated appeal of self condition. etc. overrated by fanatic arrogant blind fan
sportstennis is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:28 AM   #7
country flag EliSter
Registered User
 
EliSter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: everywhere...
Age: 25
Posts: 5,837
EliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportstennis View Post
Davydenko > Nadal.

Roddick > Djokovic
.


My explanation. It is from Roddick's decline that Djokovic began to win Roddick.


Djokovic or Nadal are blessed with the too much slow surface age. If they exist in the quick time of grass or hard court, there are few chances for them to win the victory.



What do you think?
__________________
Quote:
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.

BigJohn
EliSter is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:30 AM   #8
country flag BackhandDTL
Registered User
 
BackhandDTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 23
Posts: 3,232
BackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond reputeBackhandDTL has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by EliSter View Post
Prime No2e would get atleast 10 slams in 2004-2007 period.
Nole would not be a serious contender for Wimbledon between '04-'05. So even if he were to dominate hard courts at the time, which is a possibility (though Safin or Agassi at OZ would suggest otherwise), he could not end up with 10 without a couple of RGs, and that is a big ask.
BackhandDTL is online now View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:35 AM   #9
country flag EliSter
Registered User
 
EliSter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: everywhere...
Age: 25
Posts: 5,837
EliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond reputeEliSter has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by BackhandDTL View Post
Nole would not be a serious contender for Wimbledon between '04-'05. So even if he were to dominate hard courts at the time, which is a possibility (though Safin or Agassi at OZ would suggest otherwise), he could not end up with 10.

Nole is better version of Agassi and i see no reason he would lose from him. Safin won it once and that was it. He vanquished after that. No2e would have no match in HC during 2004-2007.
__________________
Quote:
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.

BigJohn
EliSter is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:35 AM   #10
country flag GSMnadal
Registered User
 
GSMnadal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Netherlands
Age: 22
Posts: 16,290
GSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond reputeGSMnadal has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

If they were in that generation, the only one that couldn't 'continue winning' was Roger, because he never would've started winning. And Andy of course, but he's irrelevant
__________________
RAFAEL NADAL

'Rafael Nadal is the best ever' - John McEnroe

1 AO - 9 RG - 2 W - 2 USO
GSMnadal is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:39 AM   #11
country flag sportstennis
Registered User
 
sportstennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 641
sportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by EliSter View Post
Where is your explanation?

I'm sure. Heyday Roddick almost wins heyday Djokovic by hard court.

Because, the Roger Federer generation's time was surface still faster than now. especially US open, etc.


NO?
__________________
Nadal "Sampras, Ivanisevic match. or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable. It's not really tennis. it is a few swings of the racquet. For me in the past it was just serve. serve" smug arrogant.

clay excluded. successive win 0.  If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay. power of defense and muscles. boring ugly. All the surface is slow now.

fake time-out. cheat. gamesmanship. too noisy annoying always. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to schedule. selfish two-year ranking. bump to player. ugly protest. always exaggerated appeal of self condition. etc. overrated by fanatic arrogant blind fan
sportstennis is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:52 AM   #12
country flag sportstennis
Registered User
 
sportstennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 641
sportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond reputesportstennis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by GSMnadal View Post
If they were in that generation, the only one that couldn't 'continue winning' was Roger, because he never would've started winning. And Andy of course, but he's irrelevant

Why did I make this thread? because fans, such as Nadal or Djokovic, always says. The Roger Federer era did not have competition and weak. Since there was competition now, it became impossible for Roger Federer to win. Although present Roger is already old and decline.


However, even turned 30 years old, old weak Roger Federer is continuing taking a title. I do not understand truly.

__________________
Nadal "Sampras, Ivanisevic match. or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable. It's not really tennis. it is a few swings of the racquet. For me in the past it was just serve. serve" smug arrogant.

clay excluded. successive win 0.  If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay. power of defense and muscles. boring ugly. All the surface is slow now.

fake time-out. cheat. gamesmanship. too noisy annoying always. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to schedule. selfish two-year ranking. bump to player. ugly protest. always exaggerated appeal of self condition. etc. overrated by fanatic arrogant blind fan
sportstennis is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 06:58 AM   #13
country flag TBkeeper
Registered User
 
TBkeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 19
Posts: 4,027
TBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond reputeTBkeeper has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportstennis View Post
Why did I make this thread? because fans, such as Nadal or Djokovic, always says. The Roger Federer era did not have competition and weak. Since there was competition now, it became impossible for Roger Federer to win. Although present Roger is already old and decline.


However, even turned 30 years old, old weak Roger Federer is continuing taking a title. I do not understand truly.

According to them Roger of nowadays is better than 2005 Roger
__________________
MR. FOREVER "UNDERRENTED"

SLAMS: 4 SEMIS, 6 QUARTERS
WTF: 1 TITLE, 1 FINAL, 1 SEMI
MASTERS: 3 TITLES, 5 SEMIS, 10 QUARTERS
TITLES: 21
MATCH WIN/LOSS: 482-329
TBkeeper is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 09:57 AM   #14
country flag atennisfan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,958
atennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond reputeatennisfan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by EliSter View Post
Prime No2e would get atleast 10 slams in 2004-2007 period.
no.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Topspindoctor View Post
People need to wake up. Olderer is not winning anymore slams - neither is he going to become #1.
atennisfan is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #15
country flag superslam77
Registered User
 
superslam77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: out of this world
Posts: 6,481
superslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond reputesuperslam77 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: If Fed's generation has Djoko or Nadal or Andy, Did they continue winning like Ro

Quote:
Originally Posted by EliSter View Post
Prime No2e would get atleast 10 slams in 2004-2007 period.
yeah because it's better to deal with prime fed,safin and fit nadal?

same players now just older plus the youngsters now show no promise..plus some legends have retired.

now even nadal is semi retired. yeah stronger era

what i would like fed to be nole and murray's age now so he could win everything.
__________________
justin bieber is not the best in history.
funk was better than rap.
techno not better than classic rock.

numbers are not everything.
superslam77 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios