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View Poll Results: WWW Australian Open R4: Ferrer v. Nishikori

Ferrer in 3 10 16.95%
Ferrer in 4 19 32.20%
Ferrer in 5 6 10.17%
Nishikori in 3 3 5.08%
Nishikori in 4 8 13.56%
Nishikori in 5 13 22.03%
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:26 AM   #16
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Nearly right after that match Ferrer dropped out of top 10, later even from top 20, and need exactly two years to come back. No way he's in the same form now as then.
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Kei will win by taking lots of tactical MTOs.

It's disgusting behaviour that he keeps on repeating. It's such a shame because he's a decent player, but his apparent attacking style is way overrated on here. It's quite conservative, actually.

I'm going with Kei in four, but expect him to look down and out with an injury after two sets, but miraculously recover to win the match.
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Y U no let pusher for life make this thread? That's his solo purpose on this forum.
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Come on Kei!! Defend your QF points please.
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Kei will win by taking lots of tactical MTOs.

It's disgusting behaviour that he keeps on repeating. It's such a shame because he's a decent player, but his apparent attacking style is way overrated on here. It's quite conservative, actually.

I'm going with Kei in four, but expect him to look down and out with an injury after two sets, but miraculously recover to win the match.
Thank god someone else on the forum see this. The amount of MTOs Nishikori takes is ludicrous, if the"injury" is really that bad he wouldn't be able to carry on playing and advancing through tournaments the way he has been doing. It is a shame, because I think he's a top bloke but he is getting into a bad habit here...
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Nearly right after that match Ferrer dropped out of top 10, later even from top 20, and need exactly two years to come back. No way he's in the same form now as then.
Oh god. His form may fluctuate, but you know what doesn't? Dynamics. That's why 4 years later, Nishikori toasted an "in form" Ferrer a bagel en route to sending him packing at the Olympics.

He hurts him for the same reason Davydenko recently did in Doha. He goes for the same tactics Ferrer does with added firepower. He's not afraid to change directions, he looks to play inside the court, he takes time away from his opponent, and loves using that forehand.

When Ferrer faces guys like this, he struggles to maintain his own constructive offense and ends up scrambling.

But yeah, no, forget the nuances of tennis and dismiss everything as irrelevant because this Ferrer is too good.
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Kei should remind David that there are a couple upcoming 250's in south america and that he wouldn't want to tire himself by playing this match.
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in great form this Ferrer, might take sets here.

3-2 Nishikori, with the last set being 6-1
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Kei will win by taking lots of tactical MTOs.

It's disgusting behaviour that he keeps on repeating. It's such a shame because he's a decent player, but his apparent attacking style is way overrated on here. It's quite conservative, actually.
Exactly this
But IMO those who find his game style attacking don't really know much, if anything about tennis. I mean, how is a guy that manages to hit a total of 0 winners in a whole set against Soeda of all people considered an attacking player?
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Exactly this
But IMO those who find his game style attacking don't really know much, if anything about tennis. I mean, how is a guy that manages to hit a total of 0 winners in a whole set against Soeda of all people considered an attacking player?
he isn't exactly attacking, he's Ferrer #2, but with faster paced and slightly flatter shots.
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Thank god someone else on the forum see this. The amount of MTOs Nishikori takes is ludicrous, if the"injury" is really that bad he wouldn't be able to carry on playing and advancing through tournaments the way he has been doing. It is a shame, because I think he's a top bloke but he is getting into a bad habit here...
Kei is a gimped version of Djokovic so the antics make sense. He'll stop when he gets to world no 1.
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Oh god. His form may fluctuate, but you know what doesn't? Dynamics. That's why 4 years later, Nishikori toasted an "in form" Ferrer a bagel en route to sending him packing at the Olympics.

He hurts him for the same reason Davydenko recently did in Doha. He goes for the same tactics Ferrer does with added firepower. He's not afraid to change directions, he looks to play inside the court, he takes time away from his opponent, and loves dictating with that big forehand.

When Ferrer faces guys like this, he struggles to maintain his own constructive offense and ends up scrambling.

But yeah, no, forget the nuances of tennis and dismiss everything as irrelevant because this Ferrer is too good.
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Dave in 4. Too. Much. Game.
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I mean, how is a guy that manages to hit a total of 0 winners in a whole set against Soeda of all people considered an attacking player?
He's constructively offensive. He's a small guy, and his ability to dictate points or produce winners more often than not depends on his positioning (not unlike Ferrer). Thus, it's a task for him to apply and maintain it.

Just look at the offensive progression he made in today's match against Donskoy.

Or just hold on to that one stat as a be-all, end-all.
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