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Old 01-09-2013, 06:25 PM   #1
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Default Interview with Benito Barbadillo - Nadal's Press Manager

I posted a link with the interview in a thread yesterday started by someone else. Can't find the thread now so I'm reposting it.

Anyway, thought the interview might be interesting. Basically, Barbadillo claims that Nadal has been tested four times in just over a week in the last six months (!), and seems to suggest in fact this happened over a two week period in December. (My Italian is not that great, perhaps someone could clarify this?)

If it's true, and he's been tested so much out of competition, then it would appear that he is being subjected to targeted testing. It's very rare, from what I understand, for players to be subject to this amount of OOC tests in a single year. Strange? Unfair??

The full interview (in Italian but last three minutes or so in English):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZUg1...layer_embedded

Details about the interview from the website that arranged it are here:

http://www.ubitennis.com/english/spo...els_well.shtml

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Old 01-09-2013, 06:59 PM   #2
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I hope this thread doesnt disappear as well. The op is only quoting Nadals agent. No speculation going on here
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I hope this thread doesnt disappear as well. The op is only quoting Nadals agent. No speculation going on here
Indeed!

Personally what interests me here is more what the interview suggests about ITF doping controls, rather than what it may or may not say about Nadal.

If they are finally doing more OOC tests, it can only be a good thing for tennis in general.

I think Barbadillo is correct when he states there needs to be more transparency in the testing process.
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Indeed!

Personally what interests me here is more what the interview suggests about ITF doping controls, rather than what it may or may not say about Nadal.

If they are finally doing more OOC tests, it can only be a good thing for tennis in general.

I think Barbadillo is correct when he states there needs to be more transparency in the testing process.
I agree. What's most surprising is that he was tested four times in a week. WTF?

Why would they do that if there wasn't any special interest in that particular individual?
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The average in previous years for top25 has been less than one a year. 1 is typical, a smallish number have zero or two.

Of course, a lot of the zeros are probably where players had 1 scheduled, but skipped it. We know that was the case in 2009 because of the accidentally released ITF document - eg Nadal skipped a test after Roland Garros (but before withdrawing from Wimbledon), and Del Potro skipped one before winning the US Open.
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The average in previous years for top25 has been less than one a year. 1 is typical, a smallish number have zero or two.

Of course, a lot of the zeros are probably where players had 1 scheduled, but skipped it. We know that was the case in 2009 because of the accidentally released ITF document - eg Nadal skipped a test after Roland Garros (but before withdrawing from Wimbledon), and Del Potro skipped one before winning the US Open.
!!! Never knew about this. Quite interesting. Same with Del Potro.
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Tennis is a bit of a joke when it comes to anti doping work isnt it? So few out of competition tests.
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!!! Never knew about this. Quite interesting. Same with Del Potro.
from what I remember, Federer also missed a test that year. Many of the top-players have done that.
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Tennis is a bit of a joke when it comes to anti doping work isnt it? So few out of competition tests.
Completely. It does so few they might as well be zero. See:
http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/statistics.asp

2011 they did 216 out of comp tests. That covers men, women, juniors, doubles, even some wheelchair, some challengers, itf and Davis Cup also.

Of those 216, a grand total of 21 were blood tests. A lot of drugs can't be detected by urine tests.

2010 they did 10 blood tests for the year.

2008 and 2009 they did NONE!!!!


Even worse, players can just skip the tests without penalty when they are doping (they need to miss three in 18 months to get sanctioned).


The entire tennis out-of-comp testing programme is a figleaf to meet Wada standards, but with so few tests as to be completely useless.
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Thats depressing. Basically you can dope as much as you want with no fear of getting caught, just need to be clean for the tests at competitions. Its hard to imagine that someone isnt taking advantage of this with so little risk. A sport with so much money..
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Thats depressing. Basically you can dope as much as you want with no fear of getting caught, just need to be clean for the tests at competitions.
Worse even than that. A number of drugs are undetectable after 24 hours, or as low as 10 hours with some. In-competition testing is only done after you lose a match, so if you know you have a day off, ie at slams, you can start doping immediately. Certainly helps with the increasing physicality of 5 setters these days.....

These aren't even particularly fancy drugs either, just the usual story: EPO, HGH, testosterone, etc. It's anybody's guess how bad things are with regard to completely undetectable new substances.
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Completely. It does so few they might as well be zero. See:
http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/statistics.asp

2011 they did 216 out of comp tests. That covers men, women, juniors, doubles, even some wheelchair, some challengers, itf and Davis Cup also.

Of those 216, a grand total of 21 were blood tests. A lot of drugs can't be detected by urine tests.

2010 they did 10 blood tests for the year.

2008 and 2009 they did NONE!!!!


Even worse, players can just skip the tests without penalty when they are doping (they need to miss three in 18 months to get sanctioned).


The entire tennis out-of-comp testing programme is a figleaf to meet Wada standards, but with so few tests as to be completely useless.
Agreed. Which is what makes Barbadillo's claim all the more surprising. Since when is there OOC testing this focused and forceful in tennis?
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Players are tested regularly at tournaments. Because Nadal hasn't been playing they have probably increased his out of competition tests to make up for the fact that he's not appearing at any tournaments for the usual testing. 4 in one week does sound strange though, and a little hard to believe.
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One time when Lance Armstrong had a positive drug test, he produced a medical exemption certificate, indicating that he had sought and obtained permission to use a steroid cream for sores on his butt.

Now as his cheating has been exposed I think it's turned out that certificate was forged, but that's not the point of the story; the point is that it indicates that there's a provision in cycling allowing you to sometimes use a treatment containing a banned substance to help with an injury if you get permission first.

I've never heard of such a provision in tennis. Maybe the extra tests in December were because they were worried that he used something to speed up the healing of the knee???
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One time when Lance Armstrong had a positive drug test, he produced a medical exemption certificate, indicating that he had sought and obtained permission to use a steroid cream for sores on his butt.

Now as his cheating has been exposed I think it's turned out that certificate was forged, but that's not the point of the story; the point is that it indicates that there's a provision in cycling allowing you to sometimes use a treatment containing a banned substance to help with an injury if you get permission first.

I've never heard of such a provision in tennis. Maybe the extra tests in December were because they were worried that he used something to speed up the healing of the knee???
Almost all sports with testing have therapeutic use exemptions to allow athletes with certain conditions to be treated using medications that are otherwise not allowed. This is actually quite a farce in mixed martial arts lately because fighters are being given exemptions to use testosterone to counter supposed low natural testosterone levels. As for tennis I think Venus Williams has or had an exemption for asthma medication for example.
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