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Old 01-10-2013, 01:15 PM   #46
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What's the criteria for an excellent shot?

It's simple to me. Level of difficulty and importance of the point. Paire had plenty of time to 1. Choose what he was going to do and 2. Execute the shot, he wasn't rushed. And this, on top of the fact he was under no real pressure.

It kind of makes me believe that latso hasn't picked up a tennis racket before.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:20 PM   #47
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What's the criteria for an excellent shot?

It's simple to me. Level of difficulty and importance of the point. Paire had plenty of time to 1. Choose what he was going to do and 2. Execute the shot, he wasn't rushed. And this, on top of the fact he was under no real pressure.

It kind of makes me believe that latso hasn't picked up a tennis racket before.
I'm actually playing since 1991

Even the commentator said - "Grigor Dimitrov, take a look at this" obviously referring to the official best shot of 2012.

He converted a BP with this shot (Dimitrov's was less important).

Everyone has his own criteria, you don't like it - fine, all of us who love it can live with that.

I believe also the professional tennis commentator isn't hurt you dislike it
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:21 PM   #48
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Now give me your "STFU, mug, whatever" smart arguments against the facts

This thread becomes fun
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:26 PM   #49
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I'm actually playing since 1991

Even the commentator said - "Grigor Dimitrov, take a look at this" obviously referring to the official best shot of 2012.

He converted a BP with this shot (Dimitrov's was less important).

Everyone has his own criteria, you don't like it - fine, all of us who love it can live with that.

I believe also the professional tennis commentator isn't hurt you dislike it
Well, what's your criteria?

And you can use the "the professional commentator loves the shot, so it's a great shot" line, but most commentators don't even know the simple facts of players and 95% have absolutely no understanding of the biomechanical and tactical principles of the sport. They're paid to talk about each match like it's the best ever and how we're enjoying the greatest era of all time etc etc etc.

And no, he didn't convert a BP, he converted a game point in a 250 event in front of a half empty stadium.

And if you've been playing since '91 and you find this shot difficult, you must be a very poor player.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:30 PM   #50
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Well, what's your criteria?

And you can use the "the professional commentator loves the shot, so it's a great shot" line, but most commentators don't even know the simple facts or players and 95% have absolutely no understanding of the biomechanical and tactical principles of the sport. They're paid to talk about each match like it's the best ever and how we're enjoying the greatest era of all time etc etc etc.

And no, he didn't convert a BP, he converted a game point in a 250 event in front of a half empty stadium.

And if you've been playing since '91 and you find this shot difficult, you must be a very poor player.
Out of the ordinary, surprising winner.

That's my criteria.

What's yours? Lucky reflex shot that gets the court once in 100?

Everyone his taste, for me it was great, smart, on time, misleading the opponent, not in a great arena or moment, but a shot is a shot. I like it Gonzo, you prefer it with a storyline, what can we do
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Well, what's your criteria?

And you can use the "the professional commentator loves the shot, so it's a great shot" line, but most commentators don't even know the simple facts of players and 95% have absolutely no understanding of the biomechanical and tactical principles of the sport. They're paid to talk about each match like it's the best ever and how we're enjoying the greatest era of all time etc etc etc.

And no, he didn't convert a BP, he converted a game point in a 250 event in front of a half empty stadium.

And if you've been playing since '91 and you find this shot difficult, you must be a very poor player.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:33 PM   #52
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look here u mug and learn what a fantastic shot is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrrQGn6aml4
the storyline makes this shot (and actually rally, coz the shot itself was just good) great.

I love it as well, especially being Fed saving SP against Djokovic. But i'd take Fed's tweener against Nole at USO (if i'm not mistaking) against this one 100 times.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:34 PM   #53
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i so love getting owned like that
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:36 PM   #54
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the storyline u know nothing about mechanics of tennis
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:38 PM   #55
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Why are we contesting which shot was better? The Fed shot was in 2012, and this one is in 2013.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:40 PM   #56
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Why are we contesting which shot was better? The Fed shot was in 2012, and this one is in 2013.
i know, it's cruel from my part to take advantage of enginehead's condition, despite i actually mentioned that it's meant for shots in 2013, but you know how kids are
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best shot?

maybe in a circus arena
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Out of the ordinary, surprising winner.

That's my criteria.

What's yours? Lucky reflex shot that gets the court once in 100?

Everyone his taste, for me it was great, smart, on time, misleading the opponent, not in a great arena or moment, but a shot is a shot. I like it Gonzo, you prefer it with a storyline, what can we do
No. I've already stated what my criteria is. I judge each shot based on the level of difficulty in executing the shot and the importance of the point.

The importance of the point is relative to the player, for example, Paire will most likely never play a Wimbledon final, so it's unfair to him to judge another shot as superior based on such. However, this is irrelevant here because I don't believe the 1st round of a 250 event, where he is playing a lowly ranked player is a momentous occasion for the man.

To me, the two points Roger Federer played against Andy Murray at the second set of the Wimbledon final last year were amongst the finest of the year and points that rank up there amongst the best ever played. I'm not one to say "this is the greatest shot of all time", it's an impossibility to do so, but Federer played those points perfectly out of nowhere and in the context of the stage he was at in his career and this match, they were truly magnificent. They are much more difficult to execute technically and the amount of pressure on these shots was immense. Of course, I can then use examples of lower ranked opponents which would just be as relevant, but Paire's shot does not fit either criteria.
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best shot?

maybe in a circus arena
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Why are we contesting which shot was better? The Fed shot was in 2012, and this one is in 2013.
cause this latso clown said this circus shot would have been top 5 last year while I've already posted at least 10 points of Federer alone that were way better.
they weren't even in the same league.
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