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Old 07-15-2015, 10:59 AM   #1
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My methodology is simple .. I pick up the historical data and process them.
But I do not use points system ATP, because I do not accept egalitarian ATP-system of distribution points
Very big example is 30th week 2015! Tournament Bogota-250 is NOT the same as Bastad-250 or Umag-250!!
Explanation here

Q/A:
I can see that you calculate the "weight" of every tournament based on the ranking of the top 16 players entering the tournament, probably your own rankings, not ATPs?
- using my own rankings not official ATP!!

But how do you translate that weight into points earned for each round, and how the bonus system works?
- thats a system of formulas..
- bonus system = 1=50, 2-5=40, 6-10=30, 11-25=20, 26-50=10, 51-100=5, 101-250=2 and 251-500=1 bonus point

And do you always calculate the weight based on the top 16, regardless of the draw size of the tournament?
- yes always by 16 top players

How do you accumulate points for players, for how long, does your system devalues points over time?
- 52 weeks

Surface rankings
- 3 years old data (grass = 5 yo)

Good form/bad form
- calculating last 9 weeks.. 1 win ATP = 4, Challenger = 2 and Futures = 1 point..

Movers
- 1 week


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Old 07-17-2015, 01:06 PM   #2
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If you had explained your methodology a bit, then we would have something to comment on. Looks like serious work.
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alt ranking
surface ranking
good form/bad form
movers last week
nation ranking
best tie-breakers
top Czech players

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My methodology is simple .. I pick up the historical data and process them.
But I do not use points system ATP, because I do not accept egalitarian ATP-system of distribution points
Explanation here
It may look simple to you, but it is not very clear from the example how it works.
I can see that you calculate the "weight" of every tournament based on the ranking of the top 16 players entering the tournament, probably your own rankings, not ATPs?
But how do you translate that weight into points earned for each round, and how the bonus system works?
And do you always calculate the weight based on the top 16, regardless of the draw size of the tournament?
How do you accumulate points for players, for how long, does your system devalues points over time?
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Old 07-20-2015, 03:49 PM   #5
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Surface quality - maximum is 40! - every surface = 10
this year points
zero ratio - count of null points of all tournaments (52 weeks)

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after last match FUT-CHN-F11: Li Zhe-Kibi 46 64 64 >>

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Surface quality - maximum is 40! - every surface = 10
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last match:
Canada F5 Futures
final >> Dome - Reid 63 36 64

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last match:
Astana - semi >> Kukushkin - Popko 62 64

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Seems you have done a nice job.
Can you please explain how the rankings are calculated?
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last matches:
Lexington, KY - 50 - final: Millman - Uchiyama 63 36 64
Atlanta, GA - 250 - final: Isner - Baghdatis 63 63

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surface ranking
good form/bad form
movers
nation ranking
best tie-breakers
top Czech players
Surface quality
this year points
zero ratio - count of null points of all tournaments (last 52 weeks)

My methodology is simple .. I pick up the historical data and process them. Look at the first post pls

interesting matches

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