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Old 12-27-2012, 05:42 PM   #46
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Realistically and objectively, Basel and Rotterdam should be his main targets for the year. Extending his QF streak at the slams should be possible as well. And if he's lucky, he might sneak in a win over Rusty Rafa in the beginning of the year to show his true GOATness.

My say? Basel, Rotterdam, maybe Paris/Cinci, #4 ranking.
Good prediction.Realistic.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:43 PM   #47
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so WTF is a major now?
A major tournament, yes.
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A major tournament, yes.
you know what I meant
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you know what I meant
Well you also know what I meant.
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Agreed.

Much as Federer's fans might wish to say otherwise, there's no denying that from 2009 onwards Federer has benefited siginificantly in majors from Nadal's questionable fitness.

He has shown he can still win majors this year, but one would suspect having to get through a field that includes both Djokovic and Nadal near the peak of their powers...well, that might be asking too much of a player over 30 years old, no matter how great he is.
Going through Djokovic and Nadal was 2011 and 1st half of 2012. Now that Nadal isn't ranked anywhere near the top-2 Fed will - statistically - see Djoko and Nadal on the same side in two out of four majors. Thus half the time he'll only have to beat one of them. Murray might of course be equally difficult, but Fed at least has his number in the slams - so far.
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i hope for another wimby, a few small event, YEC and a MS.

no need for more, im pretty happy even if he will just win a slam
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i hope for another wimby, a few small event, YEC and a MS.

no need for more, im pretty happy even if he will just win a slam
Oh Ambi, always a dreamer.
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Oh Ambi, always a dreamer.
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will u change ur siggy to "i love amber and lost in a bet so i have to write i love fed the GOAT"

if fed will win a slam in 2013?
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will u change ur siggy to "i love amber and lost in a bet so i have to write i love fed the GOAT"

if fed will win a slam in 2013?
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fed will win AO and wimbledon
No, Rosol will knock him out in the 2nd round of both. Will you change your name then?
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Going through Djokovic and Nadal was 2011 and 1st half of 2012. Now that Nadal isn't ranked anywhere near the top-2 Fed will - statistically - see Djoko and Nadal on the same side in two out of four majors. Thus half the time he'll only have to beat one of them. Murray might of course be equally difficult, but Fed at least has his number in the slams - so far.
Fair point. However, I think even if we assume that he will be drawn to play both of them in only two majors, the odds will be against him capturing another major.

The stars aligned for Federer this year at Wimbledon. Nadal taken out early, a slightly undercooked Djokovic in the semi-final, and a nervous Murray in the final, not to mention the roof coming on at times to not exactly hinder his play, if you see what I mean...

My gut feeling is that another season into the tour, he will need the fates to be extremely kind once more to capture an 18th major.

And Murray, after Olympic gold and his first US Open title, will probably play more freely if he meets Federer again in a major.
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Fair point. However, I think even if we assume that he will be drawn to play both of them in only two majors, the odds will be against him capturing another major.

The stars aligned for Federer this year at Wimbledon. Nadal taken out early, a slightly undercooked Djokovic in the semi-final, and a nervous Murray in the final, not to mention the roof coming on at times to not exactly hinder his play, if you see what I mean...

My gut feeling is that another season into the tour, he will need the fates to be extremely kind once more to capture an 18th major.

And Murray, after Olympic gold and his first US Open title, will probably play more freely if he meets Federer again in a major.
I would be surprised if Fed won a slam next year, but that story about "stars aligning" can be said for many slam winners.

What if Fed had not defeated Djokovic in RG 2011 final ? would Nadal have won ? the semifinal depended on a very few points, and Djokovic was in a great streak against Nadal, and Nadal felt unconfident against him, as it showed in Wimbledon final.

What if Fed had converted his match points against Djokovic in the USO 2011 semifinal ? Moya and Toni Nadal firmly believe that Nadal was the real loser that day, not Fed.

Djokovic's win in the AO 2012 also depended on a few points

etc etc ... most slam wins partly depend on luck, very very seldom it's not the case.

There's a big contradiction between the big part of hazard in all that and the fans' definitive assertions about "this will never happen" etc ...

And Fed could be luckier than having to face Djokovic and Murray to win Wimbledon. For instance he was luckier in AO 2010.

I don't get that idea that some have that Fed's success or not only depends on Nadal : outside of clay, he can very well defeat Nadal anyway, and he can very well be defeated by many other players : Djokovic is by far the favorite against him, Murray has a leading H2H, Berdych, Del Po, Tsonga ...
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