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Old 12-29-2013, 09:12 AM   #136
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Old 12-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #137
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in particular i never could understand how atheists in poland rage that much when someone wears the cross and want to ban crosses. if they're atheists, it's just a piece of metal, brings no value to them, so how come can they get so worked up instead of just ignoring and living own life
I am an atheist and I personally don't mind too much if people wear crosses (or headscarfs or whatever religious symbol) in private, but putting crosses in schools, city halls or other public places in a secular state is indeed a problem. Also teachers in schools should not be allowed to wear any kind of religious symbol, while they're facing their students. And I'm sure that most of the atheists rather complain about this than about personal beliefs. Freedom of religion also includes the choice not to be religious. But as a matter of fact, even in so called secular countries, you're very much influenced towards one or another religious belief.

What do I like about christmas? Gathering family and friends, whom I don't see that often, drinking, eating, chatting with them. Of course, that could be done on any other day, but as it is a good tradition here in Germany, many people have holidays between christmas and new year's, so it is just a great opportunity to do that!
What do I dislike about christmas? Pretty much everything else, including presents, christmas markets, the music and all the religious stuff.
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