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Old 12-03-2012, 06:31 AM   #46
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federer is offensive

....

tries to be aggressive on break points
A shitty BP conversion rate is also a key factor
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:00 AM   #47
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Default Re: Rank the top 8 players from most offensive to most defensive

What's the point of this thread? We all know the playstyles of the top 8 don't we?

What's more important is that Nadal, Djokovic and to some extent Federer are aggressive at the right time/big points. That's the way to do it. You can overdo it (Tsonga) or just wait on the big points (Murray), but that's not getting it done.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:47 AM   #48
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Fed fans believe Fed pushing against Clownga, Hewitt & Roddick
is the same as bravely hitting winners against Djoker.
If their egos can deal with their own bullcrap, they don't need to brag about
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:51 AM   #49
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I will try to guess who has the mind most naturally inclined to attacking and trying to shorten the point, independently from their qualities :

1. Tsonga
2. Federer
3. Berdych
4. Djokovic
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro : hard to distinguish him and Ferrer, they have such different styles, but considering that I decided to priviledge the mind and that Ferrer has many qualities to defend whereas it's not the case for Del Po, clearly Ferrer's mind is more inclined to creating and attacking ;
7. Nadal
8. Murray

(note that Murray has a defensive mind but has many qualities to attack if he wants to, it's the opposite for Ferrer but here I priviledged the mind attitude)
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:14 AM   #50
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Default Re: Rank the top 8 players from most offensive to most defensive

1. Federer
2. Tsonga
3. Nadal
4. Berdych
5. Del potro
6. Ferrer
7. Djokovic
8. Murray
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:23 AM   #51
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Default Re: Rank the top 8 players from most offensive to most defensive

I'll give it a go:

1. Tsonga
2. Federer
3. Berdych
4. Djokovic
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Nadal
8. Murray
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:49 AM   #52
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Default Re: Rank the top 8 players from most offensive to most defensive

1. Tsonga
2. Berdych
3. Federer
4. Del Potro
5. Djokovic
6. Ferrer
7. Nadal
8. Murray
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Default Re: Rank the top 8 players from most offensive to most defensive

1. Tsonga
2. Federer
3. Berdych
4. Del Potro
5. Djokovic
6. Nadal
7. Ferrer
8. Murray
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1. Federer
2. Tsonga
3. Nadal
4. Berdych
5. Del potro
6. Ferrer
7. Djokovic
8. Murray
Nadal in third position and Djokovic in seventh position ???
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so federer is offensive?
Has he ever saved match points?
What about his slicing and dicing, is that offensive as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQxN7fNhDk

Not even a Federer fan but that's pretty offensive.
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No way. He hits the hardest out of anyone by a distance, but hitting the ball hard doesn't necessarily equate to being offensive. Del Potro plays the percentages far more than Tsonga, Berdych and even Federer, his shots have a lot of margin.
This.

Delpo(and probably Federer) has the most efficient attacking game. That's something else. Players like Tsonga and Berdych don't know anything else than attacking so that's why I put them in the first two positions. Most of the times, this doesn't pay off for them. You have to know how to defend too.
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1. Tsonga

2. Federer

3. Del Potro
4. Berdych

5. Djokovic
6. Ferrer

7. Nadal
8. Murray
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so federer is offensive?
Has he ever saved match points?
What about his slicing and dicing, is that offensive as well?
Federer's "slicing and dicing" isn't offensive at all..Djokovic's slice backhand on the other hand, is so offensive it hurts my eyes in every single atrocious slice he manages to hit.
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Nadal in third position and Djokovic in seventh position ???
Also ahead of del Potro and Berdych

I think that Tsonga is a pretty clear 1, Federer a fairly clear 2 (though ballbashers can push him around at times), Berdych and del Potro a close 3/4, Ferrer and Djokovic a close 5/6, and Murray and Nadal a close 7/8
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Default Re: Rank the top 8 players from most offensive to most defensive

The fact that, out of those mentioned, Tsonga and Federer are the only ones who approach the net with regularity, should give you a clue.
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