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Old 11-29-2012, 03:10 PM   #76
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explain the context please

read this thread and use your brain please
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:11 PM   #77
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Default Re: Uncle Toni: "it's ATP's fault if Rafa never won WTF"

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read this thread and use your brain please
that's another way of saying "i don't know" and you are correct goatsol
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As a knowledgable tennis fan (unlike some people here), I can tell you exactly that. There are tennis players who have problems with playing indoor tennis because of the different lights, different sounds etc. compared to outdoors and Nadal is obvioulsy one of those players.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:14 PM   #78
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Default Re: Uncle Toni: "it's ATP's fault if Rafa never won WTF"

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You'd know the answer if you'd actually bother to read the full interview.
It's not so much about the speed of the surface.
I don't really care to read Toni's comments. He is basically a child abuser anyways, yet ironically, Rafa would never be in the position he is without Toni. But regardless, there is zero excuse he can give that would make my opinion change about the WTF...

Rafa's most rabid fans will easily say he is clearly better than 95% of any tennis player past or present, but the WTF is some random anomaly? Let's look at the list.. Kuerten won it, Corretja won it (Moya was in the final and almost won), Borg won it (yet could never win in New York), Vilas won it and Orantes won it. Unless Rafa's fans actually want to go back on their word and proclaim surfaces are indeed slow, etc.. Rafa is a better player than those I mentioned (except Borg so far).. Australian Open and US Open are a lot tougher physically on Rafa.. 7 best of 5 matches. I mean here, at most he wins 5 best of 3 set matches. Sure he plays top 8 in the world, but that never stopped him at other events.

Fact is, Rafa struggles on faster surfaces. Hence why he never reached Cincinnati final, struggles during the indoor/fall hardcourt season and plays his worst tennis at the US Open in general compared to the other slams. So what, Toni wants all these tougher events for Rafa to be on clay? What about increase grass first? Yes, one could certainly argue there are too many hardcourts, as a schedule like Rafa's, he plays around 14 events on hardcourt out of 20 tournaments entered in a year? What about grass? No Masters event and like clay, one slam is played on it. So either he talks about grass first being priority to include more throughout the year, or he has to keep his mouth shut.. Because as is, Rafa could technically play clay right after the Australian Open all the way until the US summer hardcourt season starts since there are several clay events after Wimbledon, many of these being 500s while all grass events outside of Wimbledon are 250s... Yes Toni, there are barely any clay events out there.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:02 PM   #79
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Default Re: Uncle Toni: "it's ATP's fault if Rafa never won WTF"

Oh that Uncle Toni... suggesting that all hard courts used on tour play at a fast pace and that most top players are fast court specialists, which is why they prefer to have the WTF be played on hard courts. Most hard courts in fact play at a slow pace, and this is just bullshit. I almost laughed when he suggested that the ATP takes into account what most players want, as the organization is for the most part, just concerned with itself.

Surely he also realizes that anti-doping in tennis is weaker than in many other sports.

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I wonder if he managed to keep a straight face while saying that.

Tennis "doping control" is so weak it's almost invisible. It's completely and utterly useless, and has no chance of catching anyone but accidentals (ie like Gasquet or Kendrick).
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Default Re: Uncle Toni: "it's ATP's fault if Rafa never won WTF"

NID...
Nadull and his camp start whining and bitching even before a new season starts, already working those ATP heads to make life as easy as possible for moonballer
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wishing injuries to Nole and Fed is a big, NO, NO (you don't joke about that stuff).
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wishing injuries to Nole and Fed is a big, NO, NO (you don't joke about that stuff).
Serious business. People can get banned.
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Default Re: Uncle Toni:"it's ATP's fault if Rafa never won WTF"

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Not exactly what he said, though.


Not exactly what he said, though.

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I don't want to take any merit away from Rosol, but I doubt he would have lost if he had been in condition to play that match. We knew we weren't in condition to play, so he came out on court paying much more attention to his knee than his opponent. Anyway, that's over now, Rosol deserved to win and there's no problem.
you are right mate, but what he is doing is sewing the seeds of doubt as to the legitimacy of Rosol's victory. I find this disrespectful. He can think this, but he should shut his mouth about it.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:28 PM   #84
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Fedtards stalking Nadal and his uncle to then post their quotes out of context. NID.

OK, so a paragraph like

"Probably because of ATP, Rafael has never won, until now, a Master. Which is the problem? The problem is very simple. When you ask the players where they want to play it, most of them, specialist of fast surfaces, answer hard court. This shouldn’t happen, ATP should take a decision apart from the players."

What's that saying?
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Toni is basically admitting that his nephew, Dull, cannot win on anything besides slow courts. Part of being a good tennis player is being able to win on all surfaces, which Federer can do, but which Dull can't do.

The ATP was generous in giving Dull his 2 Wimbledon titles. Dull should never have won anything off of clay--that's all he is. A clay court specialist.

Stupid dull for thinking that the WTF should be held on a slow court. stupid toni
correct.

it`s atp guilty than nadal won wimbledons , australia and us open......

even the masters cup everyear it`s more slow...
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Every time Toni Nadal gives an interview, God kills a kitten.
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Mafia Leader Nadal at it again
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This was also part of the interview.

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The rivalry between Federer and Nadal has enriched the sport, but it has caused collateral damage. I mean, there are now radicals, fans, from both sides who insult and attack those of the other instead of watching tennis and enjoying each player.

First this hasn't been caused by either Federer or Nadal, but by the bad upbringing of those people who insult the rival for being in favour of a particular player. The collateral damage is not the rivalry, it's the bad manners of the followers who because of a defeat or victory of their player can come to hate the opponent. For years tennis has enjoyed a good and healthy rivalry and now there’s a time when there are several players who aspire to being number one in the world and to winning all the tournaments. Worse for us, but better for tennis.
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The real reason why Nadull never won a WTF is because it involves playing the top 8 players in the world.

Usually when he wins something, any top player goes out in the round before
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Default Re: Uncle Toni: "it's ATP's fault if Rafa never won WTF"

I mean most of its dumb, yeah, but Toni does have a point about the possibility of rotating the surfaces every season at the WTF.

the World Tour Finals are supposed to be a representation of the best of the best playing in rather fair terms. there are not many indoor court tournament anymore, so it's a bit strange that they would have the culmination of the season played on a surface that barely exists

if I were them I would switch it on and off something like this in a 4 year cycle ::

hard ----- clay ----- hard ---- grass

and sure it would be a pain in the ass changing the surface depending on venue or whatever but at least it would make the World Tour Finals more realistic as a meeting of the best players on varying surfaces. having it only on indoor is strange, regular outdoor hard MAYBE I would get, but indoor!? anyway
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