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Old 11-25-2012, 08:50 PM   #16
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I come on regularly actually but only post occasionally. Now and again when I see a particularly moronic post such as the one to which I replied (or yours right now in fact), I post
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:54 PM   #17
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I love how Fedtards are calling Prime Federer 'shit competition'
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Thanks to HKz, at least he answered the question.

Nadal had OK opponents on clay. It wasn`t the toughest era, but no need to focus on it. He always had to go past Fed and it shouldn`t be diminished. I wish he had had more than only one year rivalry against El Mago, played against peak Mosquito and met with Guga, but well - he had guys to beat.
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Mug Era on clay. For the 52-1 record...who gave him the loss? top4? Nope. Söderling. Only Soderling and Isner have taken more than 2 sets of Nadal in RG.

Federer and Djokovic have underperformed vs Nadal in RG many times. They should be ashamed for allowing the 7 title record. Borg is probably furious as he had to face clay specalists in RG and grass specialists in Wimbledon. No cakewalks back then.
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I love how Fedtards are calling Prime Federer 'shit competition'
First off I don't even like Federer. And second one quality clay court opponent does not equal strong competition. And some of Fed's success on the surface was also due to the weak clay court era.
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Cool story bro.
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Everyone is a hard court specialist these days. Proper clay courters were not an endangered species in Borg's days. This must be accounted for.
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Everyone is a hard court specialist these days. Proper clay courters were not an endangered species in Borg's days. This must be accounted for.
Everyone is also fitter these days like clay courters traditionally have been and everyone also plays from the baseline as claycourters have.

Your story is nonsense. Nadal, Djokovic and Federer would have been awesome players on clay period.
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I come on regularly actually but only post occasionally. Now and again when I see a particularly moronic post such as the one to which I replied (or yours right now in fact), I post
The problem is when you make a post about a person, rather than an argument. Coming in to post character attacks just makes MTF an even worse place to be in.
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The problem is when you make a post about a person, rather than an argument. Coming in to post character attacks just makes MTF an even worse place to be in.
I am not sure what you mean exactly given that I post so infrequently and MTF is full of people calling great players mugs every 2 seconds and posting 20 times a day on average.
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I am not sure what you mean exactly given that I post so infrequently and MTF is full of people calling great players mugs every 2 seconds and posting 20 times a day on average.
True. But I think it is inconsistent to complain about the culture of MTF on one hand, while at the same time adding to the problem by attacking other members.

I'm not saying you're not free to act like all the other members of this pig pen, if you want to.
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I am not sure what you mean exactly given that I post so infrequently and MTF is full of people calling great players mugs every 2 seconds and posting 20 times a day on average.
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True. But I think it is inconsistent to complain about the culture of MTF on one hand, while at the same time adding to the problem by attacking other members.

I'm not saying you're not free to act like all the other members of this pig pen, if you want to.
Fair enough though it seems very odd to single out my relatively innocuous post which took issue with the sort of silly revisionism rampant in a thread which calls an entire era a mug era, Nadal a mug for the most part, Federer a clay mug etc.
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it's an illusion that he was playing in a particularly bad clay era. if you look at the 90s as a whole entire decade the situation of great clay players was arguably worse than the 2000s or Nadal's clay era. Federer is great on clay too, in any other clay era I am certain he would have won multiple Roland Garros's. Djokovic, Ferrer, Ferrero, Coria (at moments), all were pretty good claycourters. Nadal would have dominated on clay in any era although maybe he would have had a bit less success with wooden rackets. his main advantage is his athleticism. thats what made him so hard to beat
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If anything is player forum worthy it's this. The only people who really care are Dull fans, the only purpose to put this here is to piss on Fed fans and create a flame war, move this crap elsewhere
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