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Old 03-06-2013, 01:29 AM   #361
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Novak will probably be #1 for quite some time.
The weeks at #1 has always been a very important stat.
I would say every year at #1 is worth about one slam.
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What's funny? When Roger was at his peak Ljubicic was #3 and Blake was #4. End of discussion.
For how long? At their peak Ljubicic and Blake could pretty much anyone on a given day anyway.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:08 PM   #363
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Why do you say "even" Pat Cash? Is Cash such a heavy critic of Djokovic's that "even" he had to admit that peak Djokovic was better than peak Federer?
Even as in reinforcement of my thesis.
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The ONLY reason people call Federer's era "weak" is to discredit his achievements. You think from 2003-2006 commentators were calling the competition "weak?"
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Here it is, the last refuge Fed fans have is in this thread...they can talk about Fed's accomplishments for days on end here, too bad we don't see them anymore in his match threads
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The ONLY reason people call Federer's era "weak" is to discredit his achievements. You think from 2003-2006 commentators were calling the competition "weak?"
some people do. people are people, they will judge you no matter what you accomplish. I guarantee you, that if somehow Djokovic wins next 2 CYGS, people will say, well there was nobody to stop him, Fed is old, Nadal is injured, Murray not as good, youngsters are clueless... weak era.

Bring back Sampars, Agassi, Edberg, S&V ... Navratilova and Evert, Graf and Seles ... give us back that time when we were in our 20s and beautiful ... ah life would be perfect

then we woke up old, divorced and miserable, stuck with Nole and Muzza . Thank God Tomic is coming
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Bottom line is, no era is weak. Each era is strong for their own reasons. Federer's era was very strong, it's just that Fed was beyond dominating at that time. Things would have been different for his contemporaries if he weren't there. Likewise, you put 2004-2005 Fed in 2013 and he's probably toe to toe with Djokovic.
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Even as in reinforcement of my thesis.
How is it a reinforcement if Pat Cash has always been a supporter of Djokovic? That's like saying Borg is the greatest ever on clay, even Chang says so. Does it lend credibility to an argument if a one time winner who was a fan of Borg's makes that statement? A reinforcement would be if a player highly critical of Borg made that statement.
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How is it a reinforcement if Pat Cash has always been a supporter of Djokovic? That's like saying Borg is the greatest ever on clay, even Chang says so. Does it lend credibility to an argument if a one time winner who was a fan of Borg's makes that statement? A reinforcement would be if a player highly critical of Borg made that statement.
So now Pat Cash is the biggest fan of Novak?
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Why do you take one isolated match? or do you expect Novak to win all their encounters? what amount of bullshit.

And ivanban is right, as everyone knows. Even Pat Cash said that the best djokovic he saw in 2011 is even better than peak Federer because he had to face much stronger opposition.
Very subjective and no objective way of making such an assessment of who was better at their peak. In the end, when retired, players are assessed on their full career of achievements.
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Novak will probably be #1 for quite some time.
The weeks at #1 has always been a very important stat.
I would say every year at #1 is worth about one slam.
Usually being number 1 follows winning GS titles, but feel all players would take an extra GS for every 52 weeks at number 1. Personally always feel the number 1 ranking is overated.
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Lol at he weak era BS. There were players with big talent who played best tennis for short time, couple of years, one year or even only one lifetime tournament. They could even peak for only one spectacular match. So what that Fed faced Ljubicic, Blake, Baghdatis or Gonzales? They were playing absolutely amazing in those GS and thats how they got to finals.
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Lol at he weak era BS. There were players with big talent who played best tennis for short time, couple of years, one year or even only one lifetime tournament. They could even peak for only one spectacular match. So what that Fed faced Ljubicic, Blake, Baghdatis or Gonzales? They were playing absolutely amazing in those GS and thats how they got to finals.
Or like Rosol in a second round of Wimbledon. He played amazing there.

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So now Pat Cash is the biggest fan of Novak?
LTR Please point to where I said he was the biggest fan
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