Originally Posted by Certinfy
Really? This was by far the worst quality match of the World Tour Finals. At least in Federer vs Tipsarevic, Federer played well.
I beg to differ, I absolutely don't think it was the worst match so far. Tsonga played horribly, far worse than Federer today.
Ferrer played very well today, but the problem is the same that he has with Nadal : his only option is to find a flaw in the opponent's game that he can work on, and with Nadal and Fed, he just cannot find it. So even when he plays really well, it's still not enough, especially with Fed.
People are just saying this was a bad match because Federer was far from his usual level, and because the result was predictable. But it was really not that bad.
Originally Posted by dencod16
5 double faults from Ferrer and -8, that is pretty bad for him. Stop thinking its Fed on other side of the court.
I'm going to repeat what I said in the live commentary thread about Ferrer's DFs:
When Ferrer DFs, it's not that he's playing badly, usually. It means he's getting serious. Unlike taller players, he has no choice, if he wants to score aces or at least a very good serve, he has to force a lot.
That's why, unlike most players, a lot of DFs for him is not particularly a bad sign, in fact you'll often see him DF at moments when he's playing very well.
So there's nothing extraordinary in his having 5 DFs. With one of the giant players who can serve huge without much effort, this can be an indication of a poor level / choking / mental breakdown. Not so with Ferrer, it only shows that he tried to force his serve even more than usual, for the very simple reason that he could not find the key to Roger's game. His max is still not enough, therefore he tries to force too much, and he makes mistakes.
If you follow him closely you'll notice that Ferrer on hard courts often has a lot of DFs. Occasionally, they can be a sign of tiredness or lack of focus, but most of the time, they happen at moments when he's playing at his best (several of his DFs today happened in that context). I think it's a very conscious strategy, it's risky, but if the rest of his game follows, it pays off in the end.
After all, losing a point on a DF while trying to score an ace or an easy point on your serve is not any worse than serving poorly and still losing the point.