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Old 11-09-2012, 01:44 AM   #91
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NID, Greederer lobbying for this just when he's about to retire in a couple of years and after he has scraped in all the money he can for years and years
First hater in this thread is this clown. No surprises there. Why don't you address your own here Dull's greed of always falling for the appearance money despite the fact that it would fuck up his knees in the long run, like it did now? You are just another Dulltard extremist whose life the GOAT has utterly destroyed. Spewing your hate on a tennis forum towards someone who wins the sportsmanship award every year and is liked and respected the world over, all day out of bitterness over your fallen hero is the most pathetic thing I have ever witnessed in my life.
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One more example as to why Roger won the sportsmanship award.

He takes time before a tournament to attend meetings. He does a lot of work for the best interest of the lower ranked players and people call him greederer.

Look at nadal, he tries to impose 2 year rankings and has his own agenda. He wants the ATP to work for hgim almost and when things don't go his way he leaves the vice presidency of the players council. Disgusting behavior. Even though he is injured he could participate in this meetings and try to improve the game not only for his benefit but for the benefit of others but I guess he's too occupied going fishing, watching real madrid games and hanging out with his buddy/dog monaco.

This is yet another example of how much more than just the greatest tennis player ever Roger Federer is. He is trying his best to "leave the game in a better place when he's gone." That is highly commendable. Also his worries are not with himself and top players only but also with " players ranked well outside the top 50 to doubles specialists."

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you don't know Federer and let's add up the things he's done so far in the ATP council over his whole career.. hmmm.... finally raised some grand slam prize money amounts for lower rounds? what else? he hasn't done much yet he is getting insane praise

you don't know how much 'work' he does, and if you think that a few hours in a hotel room means anything then you're smoking something
the fact is almost all politicians are out for themselves, and if you cannot see that Federer is purely trying to build up his fucking Mother Teresa personality recognition, then you're crazy. it's just for PR, if he cared he would have gotten a lot more done in the council throughout his whole career
I agree with some of what you're saying but he's taken on this role, whatever it is, for the last 4 years and by the time he's done this time around he will have done it for 6. That's a pretty big commitment to be honest, and the players have kept voting him back on so he must be doing something.
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Excellent. Federer moving into the power-vacuum Don Toni leaves behind. (Toni was using his Rafito pawn). I approve Feds methods and his love for the lower ranked henchmen. He could lead the ATP brotherhood into a new golden age. Only problem is that he's getting older. When Federer's time is over the remaining top guys will fight over his power-position and fan-votes like vultures over a fresh carcass.
Like Alexander the Great's body?

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you don't know Federer and let's add up the things he's done so far in the ATP council over his whole career.. hmmm.... finally raised some grand slam prize money amounts for lower rounds? what else? he hasn't done much yet he is getting insane praise

you don't know how much 'work' he does, and if you think that a few hours in a hotel room means anything then you're smoking something
the fact is almost all politicians are out for themselves, and if you cannot see that Federer is purely trying to build up his fucking Mother Teresa personality recognition, then you're crazy. it's just for PR, if he cared he would have gotten a lot more done in the council throughout his whole career
Not to put too fine a point on it, but you don't either; you're simply making surmises based on your own rather obvious biases
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:50 AM   #98
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Federer just weeks ago was quoted to state that he wouldn't play Basel again unless he gets millions dollars of essentially bribery. I respect Roger to a degree but it is obvious he likes control and he is beginning to have a bit of an obsession with money
No he wasn't. His agent does the negotiations for him. Most star performers do it this way, so you won't have to argue in person. I'm surprised you don't know this, especially as it was mentioned here before.
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Fedsy said he lost to Roddick in Montreal after getting nervous about reaching number 1. LMAO!
Back in '03, it was easy to be a spoiled brat.
As much as it stinks to watch bad players now, at least there aren't so many cowards & pathetic frauds like Federer & Roddick.

Fed lost his chance for "domination" after losing this year to the SHAMELESS idiot Roddick, who "joked" that he was the other "UNDERDOG" JEREMY LIN (A REAL BASKETBALL TALENT). Dick called & boasted to Jeremy that he owned his locker while playing the Federer exhibition. I bet Dick found another gullible neighborhood friend in the celebrity world!
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:28 AM   #100
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They are completely normal, average human beings. The rest is a mixture of marketing and media.
Admiring a player doesn't really have anything to do with that player's actual personality. It's all about what you want to see in him.
Agreed, I dont get this obsession with Feds personality present in fans and especially haters. I am his fan and like his game and root for him to win but couldnt care less whether he is a saint or not, couldnt give a flying monkey how great family man and person is he in day to day life, or if he was torturing flies when he was a 6 year old...
I dont know him, and he is not part of my life and i dont analyze his every interview (dont read them even) or stalk him every step of the way. That so many haters like Munze or heya are collecting quotes going back even several years, thats a bit worrying in itself...
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also in recent times Federer has made me dislike him a bit due to his disparaging behavior towards his home city of Basel
and why do you care about what he thinks about his home town? Some people are not in love with the place they came from and if thats the case for him, he is the lucky one because he got away and can live everywhere he wants to..
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That post made a lot of sense. If you have an actual response, use words.
mattie was just trying to get some attention. Poor thing must be feeling lonely.

He takes special pleasure in messing with federer fans. Go figure......
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you don't know Federer and let's add up the things he's done so far in the ATP council over his whole career.. hmmm.... finally raised some grand slam prize money amounts for lower rounds? what else? he hasn't done much yet he is getting insane praise

you don't know how much 'work' he does, and if you think that a few hours in a hotel room means anything then you're smoking something
the fact is almost all politicians are out for themselves, and if you cannot see that Federer is purely trying to build up his fucking Mother Teresa personality recognition, then you're crazy. it's just for PR, if he cared he would have gotten a lot more done in the council throughout his whole career


and Fed has not managed to raise prize money all by himself, I can see the way you look at politics and institutional work
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Agreed, I dont get this obsession with Feds personality present in fans and especially haters. I am his fan and like his game and root for him to win but couldnt care less whether he is a saint or not, couldnt give a flying monkey how great family man and person is he in day to day life, or if he was torturing flies when he was a 6 year old...
I dont know him, and he is not part of my life and i dont analyze his every interview (dont read them even) or stalk him every step of the way. That so many haters like Munze or heya are collecting quotes going back even several years, thats a bit worrying in itself...
My sentiments exactly.

Seriously people, if analysing personality is your thang, try literature or having friends.
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Well, I wasn't talking about their actual personalities, but their public personas. In any way, they conduct themselves higher than the average joe. Must be because of the sacrifices and hard discipline they get as kids.
The public persona is what I meant by a mixture of marketing and media. That's all we get to see and of course it's designed to portray players as larger than life personalities. Or rather, the top players. The lower-ranked players have worked just as hard for their careers but who cares? My point is that we see in players what we want to see in them. But that doesn't make them higher (or lower) human beings.

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Agreed, I dont get this obsession with Feds personality present in fans and especially haters. I am his fan and like his game and root for him to win but couldnt care less whether he is a saint or not, couldnt give a flying monkey how great family man and person is he in day to day life, or if he was torturing flies when he was a 6 year old...
I dont know him, and he is not part of my life and i dont analyze his every interview (dont read them even) or stalk him every step of the way. That so many haters like Munze or heya are collecting quotes going back even several years, thats a bit worrying in itself...
I think fans (as well as haters) like to believe that they know what a player is really like. And nowadays, thanks to the internet, you can endlessly rewatch and discuss all the little details that seem to give it away. You can analyse and dissect every word, every gesture, every handshake at the net, everything that players (publicly) do outside of tennis - and then regard it as proof for what you've known all along.
I don't think there's anything wrong with seeing what you want to see in a player. I just think it's good to be aware of it and to not take these things too seriously. And I agree with you about the haters, I can't seem to understand it, myself.
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