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Old 11-08-2012, 11:05 PM   #76
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I'm not saying you shouldn't admire someone for being an incredible sportsman or athlete. I'm saying that who you are as a person in your private life, and how well you can hit a tennis ball are different things. We should expect players to be superhuman in the former, but not latter, case
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:21 PM   #77
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Of course they're human beings with their talents and flaws, but let's not lie to ourselves, they're not average human beings. Fans get inspired but these guys, admiration is a powerful thing you can't ignore.
They are completely normal, average human beings. The rest is a mixture of marketing and media.
Admiring a player doesn't really have anything to do with that player's actual personality. It's all about what you want to see in him.
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I like Federer but this is ridiculous how people are acting like he is a saint. so what, he helped orchestrate slightly higher grand slam prize money for all rounds. that was also put together by other players, but he is getting all the credit

Federer just weeks ago was quoted to state that he wouldn't play Basel again unless he gets millions dollars of essentially bribery. I respect Roger to a degree but it is obvious he likes control and he is beginning to have a bit of an obsession with money

it is always nice to have sportsman active in their communities, but then again it is not exactly a beautiful thing to have sportsmen who are OVERLY active. Federer should not be able to essentially make ATP decisions, and I somewhat respect Djokovic and Nadal for withdrawing back to their private lives. tennis players play a sport, they are not politicians

the reality is that Federer will make decisions on the board that benefit him first and foremost, and secondly that benefit the general well being of the tour. if you think anything otherwise you are delusional
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:27 PM   #79
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you don't understand anytrhing if you can't make the difference between asking for something and working for it in a players' council.

what I only say here is that the guy is no saint but he has indeed worked a lot on those topics and had worries about them.

It's not about being a saint or anything, it's about working, making some tiring worrying work.






yes, and I'm sure you think that's what all politicians and institutions do

fortunately you don't have a role in them ...

you don't know Federer and let's add up the things he's done so far in the ATP council over his whole career.. hmmm.... finally raised some grand slam prize money amounts for lower rounds? what else? he hasn't done much yet he is getting insane praise

you don't know how much 'work' he does, and if you think that a few hours in a hotel room means anything then you're smoking something
the fact is almost all politicians are out for themselves, and if you cannot see that Federer is purely trying to build up his fucking Mother Teresa personality recognition, then you're crazy. it's just for PR, if he cared he would have gotten a lot more done in the council throughout his whole career
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Don't pretend to like Federer then disparage him in two paragraphs
I always have liked Roger because I think he's classy, but Federer meeting for a few hours to chat with ATP executives in a hotel room does not touch deep down in my heart like it does with some of you.

also in recent times Federer has made me dislike him a bit due to his disparaging behavior towards his home city of Basel
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I don't know, I think Roger is peRFect.

On a serious note, who gives a shit what he failed to do or why he's doing what he's doing? Better that he's doing something than doing nothing.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:35 PM   #82
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They are completely normal, average human beings. The rest is a mixture of marketing and media.
Admiring a player doesn't really have anything to do with that player's actual personality. It's all about what you want to see in him.
Well, I wasn't talking about their actual personalities, but their public personas. In any way, they conduct themselves higher than the average joe. Must be because of the sacrifices and hard discipline they get as kids.
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One more example as to why Roger won the sportsmanship award.

He takes time before a tournament to attend meetings. He does a lot of work for the best interest of the lower ranked players and people call him greederer.

Look at nadal, he tries to impose 2 year rankings and has his own agenda. He wants the ATP to work for hgim almost and when things don't go his way he leaves the vice presidency of the players council. Disgusting behavior. Even though he is injured he could participate in this meetings and try to improve the game not only for his benefit but for the benefit of others but I guess he's too occupied going fishing, watching real madrid games and hanging out with his buddy/dog monaco.

This is yet another example of how much more than just the greatest tennis player ever Roger Federer is. He is trying his best to "leave the game in a better place when he's gone." That is highly commendable. Also his worries are not with himself and top players only but also with " players ranked well outside the top 50 to doubles specialists."

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I always have liked Roger because I think he's classy, but Federer meeting for a few hours to chat with ATP executives in a hotel room does not touch deep down in my heart like it does with some of you.

also in recent times Federer has made me dislike him a bit due to his disparaging behavior towards his home city of Basel
IMO, he enjoys congratulations for "winning shots", and at the same time, he loves it when no one calls him out when he insults his colleagues and home countrymen. Personality is important because the way you play & treat people on and off court depends on your thoughts & actions. He thinks if he was well-educated by teachers, that means he's a leader. He obviously didn't act like a leader when he treated opponents as if they were unimpressive naive boys.
He avoided Davis Cup ties & pretended the media didn't know that he said Wawrinka played mediocre tennis to cause their loss.
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That post made a lot of sense. If you have an actual response, use words.
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Next thing you know, FedTards will use this as an excuse for a loss. You know, "Fed lost because he was up all night in a meeting, fighting for the good of tennis".
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Next thing you know, FedTards will use this as an excuse for a loss. You know, "Fed lost because he was up all night in a meeting, fighting for the good of tennis".
Already done but it doesn't make it any less true.
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That post made a lot of sense. If you have an actual response, use words.

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Nadal's 2 year ranking idea definitely not selfish tho.

BTW your sig change....oh my lol.
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Nadal's 2 year ranking idea definitely not selfish tho.

It is. I have already criticized that.


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