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France 17 65.38%
Great Britain 3 11.54%
Germany 0 0%
USA 1 3.85%
Italy 0 0%
Russia 2 7.69%
Australia 2 7.69%
Spain 1 3.85%
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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I would say France.
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I would say France.

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Every country really...
Serbia for example certainly didn't.
What were Djoker, Tipsarevic or Troiki's results at junior level?
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I would say France.
Why did you open a thread if you're going to close it with the first post ?
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Why did you open a thread if you're going to close it with the first post ?
A poll creator can have his own opinion, right?
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I meant the answer was obviously France .
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You can't really say "underperformed", junior results are fine, but they don't guarantee anything.

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Serbia for example certainly didn't.
What were Djoker, Tipsarevic or Troiki's results at junior level?
Tipsy was top junior, won AO I think? Nole didn't bother with juniors much, no idea about Viktor
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Have France really underperformed though? Only if you're judging it on senior Slams won. Monfils, Gasquet and Tsonga won junior slams and have at least been top 10 players. Look at some of the other junior slam winners.

Todd Reid (AUS)- Wimbledon 2002
Florin Mergea (ROM)- Wimbledon 2003
Carlos Cuadrado (ESP)- RG 2001
Ryan Sweeting (USA)- USO 2005

What have these players done since?

Indeed, since Murray's USO junior win in 2004, only Cilic (RG 2005) has made the top 10 of ANY junior slam winner and a lot of them have disappeared into obscurity.
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Serbia for example certainly didn't.
What were Djoker, Tipsarevic or Troiki's results at junior level?
Almost every country has great players at the junior level who never make it in tennis.
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Di Pasquale, Grosjean, Gasquet and Monfils as year-end #1, plus Jeanpierre, Mathieu, Mahut, Morel, Tsonga, Chardy, Sidorenko won a GS title each in recent years.. seriously? If anything, they've been under-performing after going pro.
you confused the thread question. it's asking which countries players underpreform once they go PRO after having great junior results

as you just stated, it's obviously France because their players often dominate juniors only to fail at pro. of course fail is subjective because some have had good top 10 success but none have been able to be top dogs like they were in their junior career
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Tipsy was junior #1 and won junior slam so...
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Di Pasquale, Grosjean, Gasquet and Monfils as year-end #1, plus Jeanpierre, Mathieu, Mahut, Morel, Tsonga, Chardy, Sidorenko won a GS title each in recent years.. seriously? If anything, they've been under-performing after going pro.
You didn't underestand the poll's question.
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