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Old 10-27-2012, 12:19 AM   #1
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Default Most ATP Tour wins without a title

Who owns the record?
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:51 AM   #2
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284 - Raymond Moore
201 - Charlie Pasarell
189 - Julien Benneteau
176 - Daniel Vacek
175 - Brett Steven
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Default Re: Most ATP Tour wins without a title

Julien can go into a decent 2nd spot, unless he chokes and wins an ATP title to spoil this record!
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:12 PM   #4
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Default Re: Most ATP Tour wins without a title

Thank you! I thought my thread was deleted.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:26 PM   #5
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Two finals, denied by Sandy Mayer and Fibak. Closest he came was the three setter in Dusseldorf. Beat Borg twice. QF at Wimbledon.
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Default Re: Most ATP Tour wins without a title

Ouch
Benneteau will probably pass 200 without a title. 0-7 in finals. This year he went up against fellow choker Nieminen in an ATP FINAL and lost in straights. Also played Mugnaco in a final.

Feel sorry for the guy. You don't get much better chances to grab a title
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Benneteau will probaby choke a couple more finals so yes he's going to be second best of all the times.
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Default Re: Most ATP Tour wins without a title

I believe Pasarell has several titles and I can't see whether or not Raymond Moore actually won a title that's not recognised by the ATP.

So the record is probably Benneteau's.
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Tipsarevic probably around 180 before he won the first last year.
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I believe Pasarell has several titles and I can't see whether or not Raymond Moore actually won a title that's not recognised by the ATP.

So the record is probably Benneteau's.
ATP recognizes only open era titles

Moore profile says O but then in the biography it says 1 (Berlin 1969)http://www.atpworldtour.com/Finals/2...d-J-Moore.aspx


Samething for Passerell profile says 0 but biography says 2: 1966--Memphis 1967-Memphis http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/P...-Pasarell.aspx
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Kurnikova?
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Kurnikova?
Ye...she was well known ATP player.
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Benneteau is now at 217 ATP wins without a title
but he can change this tomorrow (Kuala Lumpur F)
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284 - Raymond Moore
201 - Charlie Pasarell
189 - Julien Benneteau
176 - Daniel Vacek
175 - Brett Steven
ATP site says 0 titles but also says he won 1969 Berlin
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this Charlie Pasarell?
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