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Old 11-03-2012, 09:38 PM   #1
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Has it ever happened? This thought came to my mind when I realised that Ferrer never was spanish #1 despite the fact he is stable TOP-5 player, got as high as #4 in Ranking in past - Ferrero, Moya or Nadal always were over him. Maybe guys like Mecir or Todd Martin?

I`m too lazy to search, perhaps someone has such stats.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:11 PM   #3
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Todd Martin was #4 for 2½ month in 1999 and #5 for one week in 1994. Both Sampras and Agassi was ahead of him in 1999 but only Sampras in 1994. Still, he qualifies.

Miroslav Mecir was #4 or #5 on and off during the late 80s, but never ahead of then countryman Ivan Lendl.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:12 PM   #4
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Gaudio was never Argentina's 1 I think. Coria and Nalbandian were always higher than him.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:16 PM   #5
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Gaudio was never Argentina's 1 I think. Coria and Nalbandian were always higher than him.
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hmmm if it was top10 then there would be many but wow top5 is kinda tricky. Tried to think for Sweden.

Anders Järryd made top5 in 22.07.1985 but just for a short while. By then I'm pretty sure he was behind Wilander. After that he never reached those heights again but won a lot in doubles. Kent Carlsson was close reaching #6 behind Wilander. Then Wilander trailed off later and I'm not sure Edberg kept a top5 behind.

Enqvist/Björkman has all been swedish nr1s and slam winner Johansson actually never got higher than #7 but he was also a nr1 at some point anyway
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Todd Martin was #4 for 2½ month in 1999 and #5 for one week in 1994. Both Sampras and Agassi was ahead of him in 1999 but only Sampras in 1994. Still, he qualifies.

Miroslav Mecir was #4 or #5 on and off during the late 80s, but never ahead of then countryman Ivan Lendl.
Thanks, I thought that if anyone these guys are most likely would suit as they had dominating countryman around the same time. And maybe Chang too? If Agassi or Pete always were higher than him I think it`s the only time in history #2 never was country #1.
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Micheal Chang was #2 for most of 1996 and was in top 5 mostly from 1993-1997 but he was America's #2 behind Sampras.
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Regarding Michael Chang, he might have been top American but it's not when he was #2 or even during the Sampras reign. After he won the French Open in 1989, there was a lot of swapping between him, Agassi, John McEnroe and Brad Gilbert. Agassi won his first major more than a full year after that Chang win while Sampras wasn't even in the picture prior to his first US Open win. I didn't look week by week but that seems to be a time frame to check.

I actually was intending to post Brad Gilbert's name here but in researching found out he was top American at the beginning of 1990. Yeah, that confused me as well.
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Regarding Michael Chang, he might have been top American but it's not when he was #2 or even during the Sampras reign. After he won the French Open in 1989, there was a lot of swapping between him, Agassi, John McEnroe and Brad Gilbert. Agassi won his first major more than a full year after that Chang win while Sampras wasn't even in the picture prior to his first US Open win. I didn't look week by week but that seems to be a time frame to check.

I actually was intending to post Brad Gilbert's name here but in researching found out he was top American at the beginning of 1990. Yeah, that confused me as well.
Michael Chang might be American #1 for a week or two during 1989 as Lendl did not officially became a US citizen until 1992.


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Michael Chang might be American #1 for a week or two during 1989 as Lendl did not officially became a US citizen until 1992.
He wasn't. I checked. Either McEnroe, Agassi or Gilbert was always ahead of him in the year when his RG victory was active. So Chang qualifies, most likely as the only man to reach #2.
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He wasn't. I checked. Either McEnroe, Agassi or Gilbert was always ahead of him in the year when his RG victory was active. So Chang qualifies, most likely as the only man to reach #2.
Aug 7, 1989. For that week only, Michael was 5 and JMac 6. Then JMac took the higher ranking back next week.
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Aug 7, 1989. For that week only, Michael was 5 and JMac 6. Then JMac took the higher ranking back next week.
Thanks, Lee! Wonder how I missed that one? Must have jumped two weeks by mistake just at the wrong place...or else lost consentration. Well then, Chang is out.
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