[romismak]

So how big and good his serve really is?

I want to talk just about serve - biggest asset he has, biggest weapon any big server obviously has

I´ve been wondering about this since Wimbledon when i 1st saw him vs Gulbis, now in Paris, his numbers and serve looked impressive, but checking ATP page his ace-per match ratio isn´t so high, he is nowhere near Ivo, John or Milos here - ace-per match is misleading stats and i don´t like it, but it is faster to check matches and how many aces he hit - but in PAris he seems to be hitting more aces than usually. Ace-per match depends on surface + how many service games you serve

Now his serve - his 1st serve is massive - the speed he is serving is from ATP tour players only comparable to Raonic-only Milos is able to serve 220-235kph bombs regularly. He has great slice serve-at high speed and totally take you out wide. His kicker is great - he is even standing so that you can predict kick serve but it is jumping high.

2nd serve great, can go for pace, can use kicker and so on.

I can´t choose where i would rank his serve

In 2012 clearly best servers are Raonic and Isner - hard to choose, 3rd would be declining Karlovic

4th spot and lower are probably big servers like Querrey,Anderson,Muller

THis guy has the size like Anderson but his serve is clearly bigger, 10-20kph more, but Anderson has more aces probably per match

So what do you think, maybe to soon to tell, but where would you rank him among best servers on the tour

[Freak3yman84]

I think it's safe to say he has the 99th best serve in the game

[romismak]

Originally Posted by Freak3yman84

I think it's safe to say he has the 99th best serve in the game

You know that list is joke... pls if you want post here post what you think, i am really curious what other people think how big his serve is, i can´t choose how good it is

[Freak3yman84]

Originally Posted by romismak

You know that list is joke... pls if you want post here post what you think, i am really curious what other people think how big his serve is, i can´t choose how good it is

1. Isner/Raonic/Karlovic
2. Isner/Raonic/Karlovic
3. Isner/Raonic/Karlovic
4. Querrey/Janowicz/Servebotro/Serverer

I'm very indecisive.

[The Bulldog]

Still think he's not as good as King Kenny, Raonic or Isner.

[romismak]

So what do you think? Today he hit 242 kph vs Ferrer, his serve is huge, but where is his serve comparing to biggest servers in the game?

[Wing Man Frank]

His serve is this good:

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[Certinfy]

First serve is top 8.

Second serve is a joke though.