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Old 10-29-2012, 06:06 PM   #16
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give me those stats please
Here just click yourself through the categories. Djokovic is obviously ahead on clay (so is Nadal), but behind on hard and grass.
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wait, what?
obviously he pulls off some screamers every now and again. can't remember much of Gasquet's recent performances returning-wise tbh - i normally associate him with standing far behind the baseline, often chipping it back and setting himself up for being on the defensive from the second shot onwards. so may rewatch. might not.

on second thoughts, if you're merely questioning his inclusion, i was doing the race list posted in the equivalent serve thread.
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obviously he pulls off some screamers every now and again. can't remember much of Gasquet's recent performances returning-wise tbh - i normally associate him with standing far behind the baseline, often chipping it back and setting himself up for being on the defensive from the second shot onwards. so may rewatch. might not.

on second thoughts, if you're merely questioning his inclusion, i was doing the race list posted in the equivalent serve thread.
yes, it was his inclusion i was wondering about

he isn't in top 10

you're right though, his return is crap
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He is, kind of. Basel/Valencia points from last year haven't been dropped yet, that's why Monaco is still #10 and not #13.
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1. Murray (GOAT return)


2. Djokovic
3. Ferrer
4. Berdych
5. Nadal
6. Federer
7. Del Potro
8. Tipsarevic
9. Monaco
10. Tsonga
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1. Murray (GOAT return)


2. Djokovic
3. Ferrer
4. Berdych
5. Nadal
6. Federer
7. Del Potro
8. Tipsarevic
9. Monaco
10. Tsonga
irrelevant to this post but I have no idea if you are trolling all the time of plain stupid in your posts
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1. Djokovic. His ROS sucks only on grass where it`s smarter to return using simple block, but apart from that he is unarguable #1 here.
2. Murray. This guy can return in play the biggest quantaty of serves, any serves. Nightmare for bigservers.
3. Ferrer. Players themselves call him to be the best in business. IMO, he is bit behind TOP-2 who are taller and have longer hands what really is advantage, easy.
4. Berdych.
5. Monaco. This guys is winning his matches not due to his serve.
6. Del Potrp.
7. Federer.
8. Tipsarevic.
9. Tsonga.

I won`t rank Rafa.
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during the finals between nole and andy in shanghai 2012, robbie koenig said nole was head and shoulders above everyone else in ROS.
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Monaco is one of thr better returners in the game...

Djokovic
Ferrer
Murray

Monaco
Berdych
Tipsarevic
Nadal

del Potro
Federer

Tsonga

Top 3 all very close, with Djokovic best on hard, Ferrer on clay, and Murray on grass
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Default Re: Rank the ROS of the top 10 from best to worst

1.Djokovic (better than aynone else at returning it deep even missiles, can vary his returns, as good on 1rst than on 2nd serves etc... )


2.Murray (very consistent, great at punishing 2nd serves but not as good on first serves)
3.Ferrer
4.nadal
5.Federer
6.Monaco
7.Berdych
8.Del Potro
9.Tipsarevic



10.Tsonga
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Federer's slice backhand return is pathetic. I am sorry to say that, but its a huge disadvantage on return games. It just gives the opponent the initiative. He used to be much more aggressive!
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If Djoker really is top returner, then basically returning Nadal's serve is much more impressive than returning Karlovic's serve.
There is many aspects to the return of serve, just like to the backhand or forehand.

Also are we talking peak ROS, career long or right now?

Those stats of Murray are very pretty, but if instead of career you choose 2011 or 2012, the figures change a bit.

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1.Murray
2.Djokovic
3.Ferrer
4/5.Federer
4/5.Berdych
6.Nadal
7.Monaco
8.Tipsarevic
9.Del Potro
10.Tsonga
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Djokovic is an overrated returner. Just go watch Indian Wells SF highlights. Isner had nothing that day but a few big forehands and lots of big serving. Pretty sure Murray would have seen him off, reminds me of their US Open match from 2011.

1. Murray
2. Ferrer
3. Djokovic
4. Tipsarevic
5. Monaco
6. Berdych
7. Federer
8. Nadal
9. Del Potro
10. Tsonga
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Federer would have been number 1 5 years ago. Now he's horredous retuner.

Anyway:
1- Murray
2- Djokovic
3- Berdych
4- Ferrer
5- Tipsarevic
6- Monaco
7- Nadal
8- Federer
9- Del Potro
10- Tsonga
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