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Old 10-07-2012, 08:56 PM   #61
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definitely remember someone calling Guga an "awkward looking skinny retard" or something along those lines. There is always (at least) one.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:59 PM   #62
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No there's 1 or 2.

Guga was definitely universally loved.
Gustavo Kuerten was far from the saint people always make him out to be on this forum. He's always portrayed as this smiley character when he was actually quite firey. I doubt many actually watched much of him. I do like Kuerten, however.
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Gustavo Kuerten was far from the saint people always make him out to be on this forum. He's always portrayed as this smiley character when he was actually quite firey. I doubt many actually watched much of him. I do like Kuerten, however.
Exactly, and add the fact that a lot of people hate his loud grunting style. Okay it was not as bad as Gruntollers style but still pretty loud.

He is one of my all time faves as well.
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Just wait and he will be hated - more popular he will be - higher in ranking he will be there will be new haters

I remember year ago or don´t know when but here was similar thread about Ferrer - he was hard-working nice guy who isn´t hated

Now he is No.1 enemy for many people... he is biggest vulture in universe...

You will see some people will come up with something vs Nishikori you will see
He was the biggest vulture in the universe last year already...

Seriously though, I struggle to see how anyone can hate Kei: he's a short guy playing an extremely aggressive brand of tennis, dictating and 'bullying' even some of the biggest hitters on tours, he's humble, hardworking, never raises any waves/controversies. What's to hate?
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Gustavo Kuerten was far from the saint people always make him out to be on this forum. He's always portrayed as this smiley character when he was actually quite firey. I doubt many actually watched much of him. I do like Kuerten, however.
He also had one of the most ridiculous grunts I've ever heard.
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He was the biggest vulture in the universe last year already...

Seriously though, I struggle to see how anyone can hate Kei: he's a short guy playing an extremely aggressive brand of tennis, dictating and 'bullying' even some of the biggest hitters on tours, he's humble, hardworking, never raises any waves/controversies. What's to hate?
We've already been over this, but yet again, Nishikori does not play an extremely aggressive brand of tennis.

Why the need to exaggerate absolutely everything?
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Gustavo Kuerten was far from the saint people always make him out to be on this forum. He's always portrayed as this smiley character when he was actually quite firey. I doubt many actually watched much of him. I do like Kuerten, however.
Oh I do remember him getting booed when he lost the Miami final to Sampras, he threw a massive tantrum after that, before composing himself for the ceremony.
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I always liked Nishikori, but my estimation of him has gone up even more now he has denied Raonic a first 500 title.
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He was the biggest vulture in the universe last year already...

Seriously though, I struggle to see how anyone can hate Kei: he's a short guy playing an extremely aggressive brand of tennis, dictating and 'bullying' even some of the biggest hitters on tours, he's humble, hardworking, never raises any waves/controversies. What's to hate?
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He was the biggest vulture in the universe last year already...

Seriously though, I struggle to see how anyone can hate Kei: he's a short guy playing an extremely aggressive brand of tennis, dictating and 'bullying' even some of the biggest hitters on tours, he's humble, hardworking, never raises any waves/controversies. What's to hate?
I remember Ferrer not being hated here, and you are among those who started this vulture thing, i have nothing against Ferrer i think he is hard working - i would say he is just stupid in scheduling - like he went to MAlaysia play 250 and he wasn´t able get there anything besides apperance fees and prize money

But to Kei, yes his profile looks fantascit, humble guy - great, attacking tennis - great, from non-hated country- great, - i mean players can be hated just based of origin
not negative image - great

I am howewer 100% sure in few months there will be something s him - something that maybe already exist but people are not paying attention at this moment . People will come up with something to hate, he just will beat ther favorit guy or he just started to annoy somebody or i don´t know and there will be ,,thing,, vs him and he will have haters - but that´s normal response from people for centuries, anybody who is popular, important or achieve something will have followers-fans and haters-people who can´t stand them - it is just natural process you will see
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We've already been over this, but yet again, Nishikori does not play an extremely aggressive brand of tennis.

Why the need to exaggerate absolutely everything?
He does though. How many players have you recently seen dictate proceedings against a huge hitter like Berdych and put him constantly on the defensive? Not even Federer.

Just because Kei is a short player without a big serve or big groundstrokes, it doesn't mean that he's not offensive. He always looks to start moving his opponent around and pushing him back/take the initiative from the first stroke, especially off the return.

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I remember Ferrer not being hated here, and you are among those who started this vulture thing, i have nothing against Ferrer i think he is hard working - i would say he is just stupid in scheduling - like he went to MAlaysia play 250 and he wasn´t able get there anything besides apperance fees and prize money

But to Kei, yes his profile looks fantascit, humble guy - great, attacking tennis - great, from non-hated country- great, - i mean players can be hated just based of origin
not negative image - great

I am howewer 100% sure in few months there will be something s him - something that maybe already exist but people are not paying attention at this moment . People will come up with something to hate, he just will beat ther favorit guy or he just started to annoy somebody or i don´t know and there will be ,,thing,, vs him and he will have haters - but that´s normal response from people for centuries, anybody who is popular, important or achieve something will have followers-fans and haters-people who can´t stand them - it is just natural process you will see
He's not stupid in scheduling. He needs to play every MM event he can because that's the only way he can keep his inflated ranking for as long as possible.

And yes, if Kei is hated, it better be because he beats one of the most popular players. He did bagel Djokovic last year, kind of ruining his W-L record for the year, but I guess a Slam scalp would be bound to bring him more haters. Still, don't think he will ever be a very hated player at all or that there will be a loud campaign against him on MTF like the vulturing one against Ferrer.
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Almost everything can be said about Ferrer agree but not agressive tenis - or extremely agresive, Ferrer is offensive baseline but his lack of power makes him look - ,,neutral,, baselines also he is many times just running behind baseline in deffense, Kei is more of offensive guy - more to Davydenko similar than Ferrer.
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He's not stupid in scheduling. He needs to play every MM event he can because that's the only way he can keep his inflated ranking for as long as possible.

And yes, if Kei is hated, it better be because he beats one of the most popular players. He did bagel Djokovic last year, kind of ruining his W-L record for the year, but I guess a Slam scalp would be bound to bring him more haters. Still, don't think he will ever be a very hated player at all or that there will be a loud campaign against him on MTF like the vulturing one against Ferrer.
Agree that Ferrer has lot of points from smaller events, but maybe he just loves to play tennis, maybe he needs money, because he doesn´t have big deals like top guys have... i don´t know really reasons behind this, but i won´t make discussion about this- it won´t go anywhere- i mean if he wants points - there is no difference being 5 or 8th - he knows he won´t be 4th - so why to play stupid 250s if you will stay 5th, 6th comfortably without it - don´t know really reasons

I personally want to see now Kei in China, what response from people will be in crowd considering current tension between china-Japan - he can be hated in future by chinese members of MTF - maybe chinese will have some players in top 100 and he will be hated - this just came to my mind it is possible
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Almost everything can be said about Ferrer agree but not agressive tenis - or extremely agresive, Ferrer is offensive baseline but his lack of power makes him look - ,,neutral,, baselines also he is many times just running behind baseline in deffense, Kei is more of offensive guy - more to Davydenko similar than Ferrer.
Kei isn`t hardhitter either. He was in the zone this tournament, but I saw matches where he was pushing like crazy. Hell, Richie whom I liked, had some extremely agressive matches in past, but I won`t call him to be agressive minded player.

Thouth I condog that Kei > David in agression on court, but the difference isn`t that big as they say. Ferrer just has far better defence and his game is more completed - Nishikori lacks that defensive skills and that`s why his offensive tennis seems to be more obvious to people.
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